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Old 05-11-2010, 06:43 AM   #15
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Thanks gents for stress relief, yes 350 is the factory info, so loaded I should easily get to 400. Kev my water tank is where your overlanders is and you still had a considerable weight increase which is comforting. I was having visions of stowing my wife up front to hit the magic 400#. (I can talk big she never reads the forums, which is also why I can tell everyone I bought the hitch!!)
Kevin REALLY glad to hear from someone who is actually using an old style and likes it. Mine even came w/ a complete new in box (but old style) cam setup, cams, saddles horseshoes u-bolts etc etc. But now I guess I'll wait to install until final hitch wt. is determined.

Boy Andy you were right "forget the simple lifestyle you own an airstream" those are very true words!
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Old 05-11-2010, 06:59 AM   #16
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Thanks gents for stress relief, yes 350 is the factory info, so loaded I should easily get to 400. Kev my water tank is where your overlanders is and you still had a considerable weight increase which is comforting. I was having visions of stowing my wife up front to hit the magic 400#. (I can talk big she never reads the forums, which is also why I can tell everyone I bought the hitch!!)
Kevin REALLY glad to hear from someone who is actually using an old style and likes it. Mine even came w/ a complete new in box (but old style) cam setup, cams, saddles horseshoes u-bolts etc etc. But now I guess I'll wait to install until final hitch wt. is determined.

Boy Andy you were right "forget the simple lifestyle you own an airstream" those are very true words!
Kevin
I purposely load my coach forward to keep the hitch weight close to 15%. My first RV, a Nomad, was so poorly balanced from the factory that even loading everything that I could forward of the axle resuled in just barely 10% on the hitch - - and it was a handling nightmare even with sway control. With the Airstream and Argosy, I have never had handling problems of any kind other than a few caused by the hitch setup on my Cadillac which have now been solved. There are some excellent Reese Dual Cam setup step-by-step directions available on the Web, and I believe that there is a at least one thread here on AirForums that discuss the setup as well.

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Old 05-11-2010, 08:39 AM   #17
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Hi Kevin,

We have the same trailer ('64 24' Tradewind) and our hitch looked exactly like yours when we got it. We went with a similar set up to what you are doing except we bought everything new. Cut all the assorted old parts off the hitch, grinded it and painted it, and then installed the Reese and sway control. Here is a picture in the event that helps you with your set up. We tow with a Jeep Liberty CRD (diesel).


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Old 05-11-2010, 09:48 PM   #18
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Thanks for the support; I returned the 1000 bars, I talked to reese and they informed me that I can get new ones (600) that fit the old head and are duplicates of the old style (will accept the saddles) which fit in the old type cams. I am skeptical as what I have read here on the forums you can get new bars but they are curved on the ends like the pic Blanchard so kindly provided. the girl at reese didnt exude confidence... do you have any first hand knowledge about this??? Or should I start the hunt for used ones.
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Thanks for the pic, sure has a clean look to it. Off topic question what type of paint did you use and are you happy with it .... sure looks good.
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Old 05-12-2010, 05:14 AM   #19
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Thanks for the support; I returned the 1000 bars, I talked to reese and they informed me that I can get new ones (600) that fit the old head and are duplicates of the old style (will accept the saddles) which fit in the old type cams. I am skeptical as what I have read here on the forums you can get new bars but they are curved on the ends like the pic Blanchard so kindly provided. the girl at reese didnt exude confidence... do you have any first hand knowledge about this??? Or should I start the hunt for used ones.
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Thanks for the pic, sure has a clean look to it. Off topic question what type of paint did you use and are you happy with it .... sure looks good.
Kevin
The 800 pound bars that I use with my very softly sprung Cadillac when towing my Overlander are of the new design with hooks on the end rather than provisions for the saddles. Their trunions match up with the vintage hitch head that I have on my Cadillac. The biggest difference is that they are about an inch different in length so the brackets on the hitch need to be moved forward on the coach's a-frame to allow the hooks to properly seat on the saddles. I learned last summer that if the hook isn't fully seated over the cam when the coach and tow vehicle are in a straight line - - the result was severe sway like none I had ever experienced with this combination.

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Old 05-12-2010, 07:20 AM   #20
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Kevin,

To clean up the hitch we used a wire brush on a drill, and an angle grinder, to take off the old rust, then just Tremclad primer and Tremclad silver spray paint. Nothing special.

The area where you can learn from our mistakes is if you have to do any drilling through the hitch to install new brackets... Mr. Blanchard momentarily forgot that the wiring runs through one side of the hitch and drilled a nice hole right through the wiring bundle. Ooops. Got it repaired, but it would have been better to pull the wiring out, drill, and then push the wiring bundle back through.
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Old 05-12-2010, 08:01 AM   #21
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Thanks to all, I guess I'll hunt for some used bars and if no luck at least I can buy new. Thanks for the paint info.
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