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Old 06-13-2016, 05:34 PM   #15
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But you guys are only thinking AS style retail. I work fleet. Landscapers, contractors etc. buy 30k trucks and abuse them. I wouldn't use my 50K truck like that either. Maybe block on a palate, or rent a trailer or truck, but that isn't how many truck owners think. They think of it as a tool and nothing more.
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Could someone explain to me what "Military Grade Aluminum" is. Be sure to use small words.
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I always like both Chevy and Ford but I think this stunt is a low blow, the company should be ashamed of themselves, especially since they plan to go aluminum as well.

http://www.autoblog.com/2015/08/05/g...ucks-aluminum/
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Could someone explain to me what "Military Grade Aluminum" is. Be sure to use small words.
It's the same stuff they make the water canteens out of.

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Could someone explain to me what "Military Grade Aluminum" is. Be sure to use small words.
Its also the same stuff they made M998 HMMWV bodys out of.
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Its also the same stuff they made M998 HMMWV bodys out of.
But they were a much, much thicker gauge aluminum
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But they were a much, much thicker gauge aluminum
The one I had to weld up when I worked in an Fms shop wasn't very thick once I stripped the paint.
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I kind of look at this as GM doing everything they can to identify a weakness to exploit in the truck in order to gain any market share they can. The numbers have been out that the F150 is still the top selling half ton. Congrats to GM, they spent basically two years finding a weakness in the truck. If you are going to drop a load of chop block from six foot high into your bed, or be stupid enough to put your toolbox on the rail vs the opened tailgate that's a foot away, then by all means buy the GM.

If you are looking for a truck that had the highest crash test results of any half ton truck, which I take more comfort in than knowing that my bed can survive a load dropped from a Bobcat, I'd buy the Ford.

It will be interesting to see how long this ad stays around as they ended up pulling the aluminum cage commercial basically saying that this could be seen as hypocritical as they have indicated the move to aluminum in their trucks in 2018.

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I always like both Chevy and Ford but I think this stunt is a low blow, the company should be ashamed of themselves, especially since they plan to go aluminum as well.

http://www.autoblog.com/2015/08/05/g...ucks-aluminum/
That article doesn't say Silverado is going aluminum, it says they will use "various materials, including aluminum and lightweight steel." It also says aluminum is used right now for the hood and some of the engine.

I think it's a completely valid commercial. I'd think most truck sales are for people that use them for work, and to them it's a tool.

Remember this from a couple years ago? Frame twisting between the Silverado 2500 and the F250?

http://www.autoblog.com/2014/10/16/c...vs-ford-video/

It's interesting that the engineer says they use rolled steel in the bed and not aluminum for rigidity.
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Its also the same stuff they made M998 HMMWV bodys out of.
Is this the same M998HMMWV that the US gave the Iraqi army; that then surrendered them to ISIS and now the US is spending $250,000.00 per Hellfire missile + drones and personel to destroy these same M998 HMMWV's?

Look at how many Honda Ridgelines you can buy for $250,000 and when you blow them up the bits can be recycled to make a new composite bed.

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Could someone explain to me what "Military Grade Aluminum" is. Be sure to use small words.
Maybe it's the same used on the skin of the F-16.
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It very well might be the iraqi army painted most of theres blue and white so at least there easy targets
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We all know that that the term "Military Grade Aluminum" is just a marketing buzz phrase to lure in the uninformed. We also know that Ford makes a good truck. I guess it just sounds better then "ASNI Standards Aluminum" or even "Civilian Grade Aluminum". Marketing and buzz phrases abound in the world we live in and the marketing geniuses will create any phrase they want, even misleading, to sell their product to the ignorant public. I particularly like the buzz term that has been around for a long time that claims the product is made from "Billet Aluminum". I once asked a salesman what alloy his billet was, and he responded that it was billet, my brother dragged me out of the shop after I was asked to leave because I was being an A-Hole that didn't know what I was talking about..
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Military Grade aluminum is no longer available. That's because the DoD/federal Govimint now uses AMS specs.

AMS specs are Aerospace Material Specifications, so I applaud Ford for not trying to pass their stuff off as "Aerospace Qualified Aliminum".
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