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Old 07-30-2009, 07:02 PM   #1
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Will I be safe?

I have a 1966 Tradewind that has to move now...

The County came up to the ranch and tagged my trailer that it has to be moved by tomorrow. Since this will be a sudden move for my trailer back home and my tow vehicle is out of commission, a friend with a big truck is going to tow it for me. They do not have the hook up for the weight stabilizers that I use and will only be hooking up straight to my ball and hitch and safety chain. This person does have experience pulling trailers.

We have to go about 10 miles, though with some very steep up and down hills in about 2-3 of them and speed bumps along the way.

We will be safe? Any suggestions?
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Old 07-30-2009, 07:09 PM   #2
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I don't understand how the .gov can tell you to remove your trailer from your property.. but..

If he has the proper size ball, and they go easy, if your trailer is otherwise safe to tow, it should be fine.
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Old 07-30-2009, 07:25 PM   #3
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Sounds like the TV is BIG. In that case, you will have no trouble. The leveler and stabilizers were to compensate for undersized TV's.
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Old 07-30-2009, 07:32 PM   #4
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The owner of this ranch let me keep my trailer up there and I was allowed to come and stay whenever I wanted while I paint my landscape art. Apparently an ex-ranch laborer (who is loosely tied to the main owner by marriage) showed up at the ranch recently to "go fishing" and was told by one of the owners that he needed to ask permission to enter the ranch. He replied with, "How come SHE gets to come and stay in her trailer whenever she wants?"

Anyway, next thing you know the County agent shows up to inspect the property after receiving a report that "someone was living in their trailer up there." Even after they told him that I just came up to paint once in awhile, he saw a hose connected from my trailer to a faucet and called it "a living condition." Tagged the trailer that I had to be out by Aug 1.

I don't know the County rules, but since I have been a guest of the owner for the last year, I surely don't want to cause him any troubles. I know he and the County have knocked heads over the years about public access to his property, so they were probably itching for a reason to tangle with him again.

It was an incredible year in the most fabulous place, I will miss it dearly, but time to move on. At least I still have access to drive up anytime with the dogs and to paint, just not with my trailer....

Carol
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Old 07-30-2009, 07:50 PM   #5
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Are you going to try and find a "bear-less" spot to put your AS now?

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Old 07-30-2009, 08:29 PM   #6
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Got to love california. Good luck with your next as adventure. hope it is as entertaining as this place has been.
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Old 07-30-2009, 09:25 PM   #7
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Our 65 28" was towed without stabilizer bars up through the mountains. No problems. Just take it slow and easy
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I agree... you shouldn't have any problems. I towed my 66 24' tradewind about 100 miles with just a regular hitch and no brake controller when I 1st purchased it.

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The owner of this ranch let me keep my trailer up there and I was allowed to come and stay whenever I wanted while I paint my landscape art. Apparently an ex-ranch laborer (who is loosely tied to the main owner by marriage) showed up at the ranch recently to "go fishing" and was told by one of the owners that he needed to ask permission to enter the ranch. He replied with, "How come SHE gets to come and stay in her trailer whenever she wants?"

Anyway, next thing you know the County agent shows up to inspect the property after receiving a report that "someone was living in their trailer up there." Even after they told him that I just came up to paint once in awhile, he saw a hose connected from my trailer to a faucet and called it "a living condition." Tagged the trailer that I had to be out by Aug 1.

I don't know the County rules, but since I have been a guest of the owner for the last year, I surely don't want to cause him any troubles. I know he and the County have knocked heads over the years about public access to his property, so they were probably itching for a reason to tangle with him again.

It was an incredible year in the most fabulous place, I will miss it dearly, but time to move on. At least I still have access to drive up anytime with the dogs and to paint, just not with my trailer....

Carol
Gee.....and California is supposed to be so "broke". They paid for someone to come out and hassle you over your retreat.....sounds like a waste of taxpayers $$ to me.
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I would look at the county rules. If you are on private land, with their permission, you are being asked to move why? It may be that if you relocate on that same land, without the full time hookup to water, you will be in compliance.
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Since I don't see any reference to having trailer brakes, and I would think your AS weighs more than 1,500 lbs, I would say no it is not safe... My concern would be the steep inclines, especailly the decents with no trailer brakes. If the TV is big enough you may get away with it, but if something happens unexpectedly...

But even more important is that it appears to be illegal to tow a trailer in CA that weighs over 1,500 lbs. without brakes. Of course they don't come out and say that the brakes have to be functioning, but I doubt that argument would go far with the arresting officer.


Here's the CA DMV language....

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Trailer Brakes

In California, brakes are required on any trailer coach or camp trailer having a gross weight of 1500 lbs. or more. Usually the braking capacity on tow vehicles is good, however, it may not be good enough to safely stop the several hundred to several thousand additional pounds that your trailer weighs. Most conventional and fifth-wheel trailers have electric brakes, activated by a controller in the tow vehicle. The controller automatically coordinates the tow vehicle and trailer braking so the two systems work together when the brake pedal is applied.
The controller can also be helpful in stabilizing a trailer that sways because of bad road conditions. Manually applying the trailer brakes by using the hand lever on the controller will restabilize a trailer that is likely to sway.
Folding camping trailers and boat trailers are usually fitted with surge brake systems which operate separately from the tow vehicle's brakes. Surge brakes are applied by a mechanism attached to the receiver/ball connection. As the tow vehicle slows, the forward motion of the trailer compresses the mechanism which in turn applies the trailer brakes.
Motorcycle trailers do not need brakes unless the weight exceeds 1500 lbs. gross. If you install brakes on your motorcycle trailer, be sure the brakes do not brake harder than the motorcycle or the motorcycle may flip backwards over the trailer when the brakes are applied. The brakes must always be properly adjusted.
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I have a 1966 Tradewind that has to move now...

The County came up to the ranch and tagged my trailer that it has to be moved by tomorrow. Since this will be a sudden move for my trailer back home and my tow vehicle is out of commission, a friend with a big truck is going to tow it for me. They do not have the hook up for the weight stabilizers that I use and will only be hooking up straight to my ball and hitch and safety chain. This person does have experience pulling trailers.

We have to go about 10 miles, though with some very steep up and down hills in about 2-3 of them and speed bumps along the way.

We will be safe? Any suggestions?
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Old 07-31-2009, 05:42 PM   #13
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HOORAY! We made it....

I stayed there last night so I could finish up a few things, go to sleep, and roll out of bed to be ready by 8:30. I was so nervous that with my luck, the bear would try to crash the party again, so I locked every window up tight. Quiet night...

They show up in a GIGANTIC truck, as in the kind that pick up your trash. The ball was too big for my hitch and they didn't have another. Told me they would be back in a few hours so I ate breakfast, took the dogs for a walk and let them go swimming. Finally they come back with a big van, hooked it up, and oh yes, the brakes.... I have a braking system in my set up, but all we had for this tow was my break-away trailer brake cable which I showed them. Anyway, we took it slow, got it all the way home and then they looked at the passageway to my back yard. There is a little snakey part, going past the porch with the giant wisteria bush, swing in at the second fence, though even with both sides of the gate wide open, it is a bit tight with a little swerve afterwards to miss some sprinkler heads. He said, "I will only take it as far as the second fence." Which was fine with me, I was just happy to get it home in one piece, though I haven't looked inside yet..

Soooo, it's been awhile since I have backed up the trailer and I was never the expert at it. I looked up some websites on "Unassisted Trailer Reversing" for a little review, reading outloud as my hands were moving in the air trying to practice it. My friend's Range Rover is still sitting in my front yard, I'll have to look in the garage for the rest of the hitch stuff. Let's see, it is 3:30PM right now, thank god I have back porch lights, I may get it in by morning...

Thank you for all your gracious replies,

Carol

PS When we got here, I found out they never hooked up the trailer break cable!
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HOORAY! We made it....

I stayed there last night so I could finish up a few things, go to sleep, and roll out of bed to be ready by 8:30. I was so nervous that with my luck, the bear would try to crash the party again, so I locked every window up tight. Quiet night...

They show up in a GIGANTIC truck, as in the kind that pick up your trash. The ball was too big for my hitch and they didn't have another. Told me they would be back in a few hours so I ate breakfast, took the dogs for a walk and let them go swimming. Finally they come back with a big van, hooked it up, and oh yes, the brakes.... I have a braking system in my set up, but all we had for this tow was my break-away trailer brake cable which I showed them. Anyway, we took it slow, got it all the way home and then they looked at the passageway to my back yard. There is a little snakey part, going past the porch with the giant wisteria bush, swing in at the second fence, though even with both sides of the gate wide open, it is a bit tight with a little swerve afterwards to miss some sprinkler heads. He said, "I will only take it as far as the second fence." Which was fine with me, I was just happy to get it home in one piece, though I haven't looked inside yet..

Soooo, it's been awhile since I have backed up the trailer and I was never the expert at it. I looked up some websites on "Unassisted Trailer Reversing" for a little review, reading outloud as my hands were moving in the air trying to practice it. My friend's Range Rover is still sitting in my front yard, I'll have to look in the garage for the rest of the hitch stuff. Let's see, it is 3:30PM right now, thank god I have back porch lights, I may get it in by morning...

Thank you for all your gracious replies,

Carol

PS When we got here, I found out they never hooked up the trailer break cable!

Glad to hear you made it without incident. Now enjoy your weekend.

Regards,

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