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03-04-2008, 06:32 PM
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4 Rivet Member
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holland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thecatsandi
I hit a new record yesterday filling the truck. $120 for one fill up!
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I can just see all the new fuel charges I will get from the trucking companies. I have a very good friend at the marina that owns a fleet of 150 semis. He loves fuel surcharges, he stuffs a small % of it in his pocket. Easy to hide. He is the same guy that owns a 55 sea ray and bitches about the 3k it cost to fill up. You know it is all relative, at least being a streamer we only have one engine to feed, not 2. Michelle can you burn bio diesel? Is it any cheaper?
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03-04-2008, 07:35 PM
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#82
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More than one rivet loose
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Los Alamos
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Quote:
Originally Posted by safari 28
Michelle can you burn bio diesel? Is it any cheaper?
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I can burn bio-diesel but I have not found any nor do I know if it is any cheaper.
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03-05-2008, 01:55 PM
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#83
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Tom, the Uber Disney Fan
2006 30' Safari
Orlando
, Florida
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Last night I bought the most expensive diesel I have had to buy so far...BP @ $3.699/gallon. Can you say ouch?
Check this out:
StumbleVideo
Maybe this will prove to be our answer. If not, we have a problem Houston! This would be better than a fuel cell.
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03-05-2008, 03:55 PM
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#84
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4 Rivet Member
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holland
, Michigan
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Excellent video, He was in USA today as well. Something tells me he will be the next Bill Gates, and he should be looking for very good personal security on a 24/7 basis. He needs lots of electricity to break the water molecule apart, I suspect modern technology in capacitor and transformer development is the secret. Just a guess, but damn, this maybe the salvation for Michigan. We have lots of water!!
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03-05-2008, 04:54 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
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water water everywhere
Quote:
Originally Posted by safari 28
Just a guess, but damn, this maybe the salvation for Michigan. We have lots of water!!
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Yeah...we do too here in Western N.Y. But there's already talk of
selling it to other parts of the Country. We can only hope for the best.
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03-05-2008, 07:20 PM
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Rivet Master
2001 34' Limited
The State of
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Join Date: Sep 2002
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There are a lot of good ideas expressed here
as to the reason for diesel prices, but they're
all insignificant factors. The real reason is...
...because I bought one!
If you see me in the shortest line in the
grocery store, don't get behind me.
Either something in my cart will need
a price check or the paper tape in the
cash register will run out!
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03-06-2008, 09:55 AM
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Tom, the Uber Disney Fan
2006 30' Safari
Orlando
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Quote:
Originally Posted by safari 28
He needs lots of electricity to break the water molecule apart, ...
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That was my thoughts, too. But there are ways around that using alternative energy sources such as a combination of renewables like solar, wind, geothermal, and even ocean currents to provide the electricity. A lot of pie in the sky, but who would have ever dreamed of running a car on water...well, I have but I had no idea of how.
Everybody is afraid of hydrogen since the Hindenburg, but it is no more dangerous than the LP we carry on our Airstreams is proper safety precautions are built into the systems. NASA has used hydrogen fuel cells to provide electricity for the space program since the sixties. Hydrogen gas is lighter than water and the by product of the fuel cell provided was the water the astronauts needed while in orbit.
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03-06-2008, 11:04 AM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
1977 31' Excella 500
Berkeley Springs
, West Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Hydrogen is far LESS dangerous than the LP we carry.
I recently reread the eyewitness accounts of the Hindenburg disaster. Most of the people made it out alive. In fact, there were three crewmen in the lower vertical fin at the rear right below where the fire first broke out. They escaped unscathed. Why? Because hydrogen floats UP!
So even though it's burning, it floats up and away from the crash.
The biggest problem with hydrogen is its specific energy; that is, it's amount of power per unit of mass. Hydrogen has far less power than gasoline for a given amount, so you live with shorter range or carry a giant fuel tank.
The logical solution would be to use nuclear power to generate the electricity to break down water and produce it. When you burn it, it simply combines with oxygen and forms.....water.
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03-06-2008, 03:05 PM
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Tom, the Uber Disney Fan
2006 30' Safari
Orlando
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In a conventional hydrogen fuel cell, you are correct. It may also be correct in this example, but if you look at the btu's being talked about in the video, it must be more efficient. The car traveled several hundred miles on four oz. of water. Our sun is powered by hydrogen. Plasma cutters are powered by oxygen. Put the two together and you would have an enormous amount of energy. In a confined space, you might wind up with a bomb, but that can certainly be over come with design and engineering...exhaust any run-away combustion (explosion) out an emergency exhaust port through a top surface of the car. I'm no automotive engineer, but there are ways to develop this as a source of energy for America and if I were a "Bill Gates" or a "Warren Buffett" that's were I'd be looking to invest some of my foundation $$$$'s.
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