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Old 10-05-2014, 07:26 PM   #29
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Probably a full size van is the way to go. Problem is they don't make very many for passenger use because you really need and want a crossover, at least that is what they are forcing on us. I guess I will worry about this in 10-20 yrs when my Excursion wears out.

The Expedition with the tow package is about 9000 lbs towing capacity.

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Old 10-05-2014, 08:13 PM   #30
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SAE tow rating on SUVs?

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If you would like a big spacious SUV to tow with check out the 2015 Ford Expedition Max. It has been mildly reworked for 15 and now has the 3.5 Echoboost drivetrain from the F150.

Compared to the old Excursion it has independent suspension front and rear which makes it massively more stable with a fraction of the road shock. It rides and handles better than any pickup you can buy and seats 7 or 8 comfortably.

The 18" tires it comes with are not great so either change them or go to the 20" wheel option. I hope this helps.

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I just looked at the Ford, GMC, and Chevy web sites for their full size SUVs. They all quote tow ratings. I don't see any statements that their ratings are based on the new SAE towing standard. Am I overlooking anything? It would be nice to know if the numbers can be compared with the numbers on pickups.
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Old 10-06-2014, 05:32 AM   #31
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Old 10-06-2014, 07:15 AM   #32
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I finally found an excursion that was in great shape. I got a pretty good deal on it. The only way I'm let it go is if someone steals it from me. It pulls my 34 footer like nobody's business.
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Old 10-06-2014, 03:14 PM   #33
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Payload is on the door jamb and different for each individual vehicle, max tongue weight on the particular hitch installed. Need to look there.
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Old 10-06-2014, 04:04 PM   #34
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Max tow rating is actually a pretty useless number for people who tow travel trailers and expect to carry anything in the vehicle, like passengers. What matters is the GCWR, As an example if you look up the base curb weight in the above link, it is under the Capacities tab and add the max tow rating to it you will find that you are at GCWR. This means that once you add options, people and "stuff" your maximum trailer weight is reduced from the Max Tow number.
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Old 10-06-2014, 04:06 PM   #35
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One of the Families we follow the dad bought a 3/4ton van and sent it to get converted. Can you say "CAPTAINS CHAIRS"
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Old 10-06-2014, 04:11 PM   #36
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I can't afford anything new anyway so tow ratings are irrelevant.

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Old 10-08-2014, 04:49 PM   #37
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Unfortunately there are "experts" here who have told me that my 3/4 ton truck is too big for pulling any AS, and that it is tearing my trailer apart. It was actually suggested that I own too much truck for a 34' AS! Take that advice with a grain of salt...
Please provide a link...I need to read that thread.
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Old 10-08-2014, 05:35 PM   #38
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My 2003 Expedition has a 1,600 lb payload. Basically same underlying frame and suspension as today's model. I put about 950 lbs on the tongue. After loading large dog in rear and our junk in back seat still under both axles by about 200 lbs overall according to CAT scale.
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Old 10-08-2014, 06:14 PM   #39
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Get a 3/4 or 1 ton Chevy van if you want payload and 10K towing capacity.
Change to 16" rims and LT Michelins and soften the tow with 600 or 800 pound bars.
That's a nice ride!
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....And with the brainwashed veterans who should know better, but who keep repeating this tired, old nonsense anyway.
With some effort, it is possible to not sound offensive and make your point anyway!!
First hand experience is what I found to support the statements made by "brainwashed veterans". I tow with a 1 ton extended Chevy Van. The bars that came with the Reese system equaled about 1200 pound bars and the ride was horrific. TV and trailer were like 1 continues stiff board 53 feet long. Doors were flung open and stuff was all over the trailer. As soon as I hit 60 mph, the trailer started to sway. I replaced the bars with 800 pound trunion bars and the entire set-up, ride, sway changed. I now have what I would call a soft independent ride and have not once on a 1500 mile trip experienced any sway.
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Old 10-11-2014, 09:27 AM   #41
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That's because the problem isn't with the TV. It is with the poorly-designed, fragile, little trailer. And with the brainwashed veterans who should know better, but who keep repeating this tired, old nonsense anyway.
There sure is some repetitive nonsense in these files....

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Old 10-11-2014, 09:40 AM   #42
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Where have all the good Tow Vehicles gone?

Listening to some people one might think that there is only one formula to arrive at a good tow vehicle/setup.

Big or small within reasonable limits can work just fine for those who are able and willing to think a setup through and then fine tune for success.

There is NOT only a single formula for success.

Airstreams, even the new ones, really ain't that heavy. I have cargo trailers that I tow with one tons that weigh over 7,000 pounds empty..... Routinely loaded to 26,000 GVW.

Just sayin.
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