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Old 02-21-2014, 07:54 AM   #309
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I was seriously considering a Chrysler 300. Very nice cars that I would probably have never considered had it not been for looking for a new tow vehicle and Can-Am's experience with them. In the end, I decided I just could not live without a minivan for all of its extra space and cargo room, plus the full stow & go seating was a big thing for me.

I don't recall what year your Chrysler 300 is, but I believe I saw it in another thread and it looks like either this year's model or at least a 2011 or newer. So it could have the same Pentastar V6 engine, although you probably have the 8 speed automatic whereas I have the 6 speed automatic. If so, we have a similar drivetrain. So far I've only driven about 150 miles in which there were a few smallish hills, but the kinds where many semi-trucks can't make it uphill at the speed limit and go up anywhere from 50% to 80% of the speed limit.

Once I got the hang of manually shifting into 4th gear (normally in 5th for towing on level ground), I was OK. My digital display shows coolant temperature but not transmission fluid temperature (not that I can find anyways). I've got a factory transmission cooler though. My plan is to go out west in the next few weeks, although I may take a long, scenic route to Key West, FL and then across AL, MS, LA, TX, AZ, NM, etc, up through CA, OR, WA, etc. Despite assurance from Can-AM that my 2012 Town & Country will be fine towing my 1990 Airstream Excella 25, I'd rather take the least steep hills possible. Once I do that, I'll report back on how it goes. For now, my Airstream will probably be parked until I head out and the van will be used solo without towing until I am ready to head out west.
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Old 02-21-2014, 11:48 PM   #310
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I found that with my F150 the transmission fluid does warm up in the hills but cools down rather quickly on the down slopes. I don't think I would worry about it as long as you do have a tranny cooler.
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Old 02-21-2014, 11:53 PM   #311
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Whats that white stuff on the ground?
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Old 02-22-2014, 12:29 AM   #312
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RAM 2500 HD 4x4 with Cummins towing 28' FC. Handles the tongue weight easily, has the grunt to tackle the passes with ease, and gets 13-14.5 mpg, and 19mg unloaded. Longer 8ft bed holds motorbikes and gear just fine.
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Old 02-22-2014, 12:59 AM   #313
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2013 VW Touareg TDI, reinforced hitch by Can Am, towing 2013 FC 30. Pulls good since ProPride hitch is used. Gets 15 mpg highway (28 hwy solo). There are so many debates whether or not this VW Touareg TDI can tow -- as long as the hitch is reinforced and using ProPride or Hensley WD, it can handle up to 30' (except for S/O and 30 Classic models) without any issues.

My sincere salute to Andy at Can-Am and Sean at ProPride making this dream possible.
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Old 02-22-2014, 01:03 AM   #314
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RAM 2500 HD 4x4 with Cummins towing 28' FC. Handles the tongue weight easily, has the grunt to tackle the passes with ease, and gets 13-14.5 mpg, and 19mg unloaded. Longer 8ft bed holds motorbikes and gear just fine.
Nice combo! It's what I wanted, but VW Touareg TDI will have to do for now until I retire -- my work has a parking garage in downtown so TIGHT that parking a truck is a real pain.
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Old 02-22-2014, 06:43 AM   #315
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Nice combo! It's what I wanted, but VW Touareg TDI will have to do for now until I retire -- my work has a parking garage in downtown so TIGHT that parking a truck is a real pain.

Parking? You mean docking! We've got a 2500 megacab 4x4 and sometimes I joke about getting a harbor pilot to get me in some spaces. That truck coupled to our 29' Ambassador makes for an interesting experience, especially in some older and crowded campgrounds.

Still love it, though. Never worry about overloading the bed and the kids have plenty of room in the back.
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Old 02-22-2014, 09:22 AM   #316
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My towing vehicle is a 2012 Chevy Express 2500. Towing is a pleasure. The only downside is lack of 4-wheel drive, I found this out on one of my first outings. I was stuck on wet grass while trying to quietly move into a site at midnight last summer. I had to drop trailer and have a tractor rescue me next day.
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Old 02-22-2014, 10:20 AM   #317
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You might consider a new locker rearend in a different ratio, like a 3:73 or even a 4:10 as it will not cost that much and will give you a vastly improved traction for a 2 wheel drive. Here is a good demo on a Chevy-

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Old 02-22-2014, 12:07 PM   #318
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The long wheelbase and seating for six is wonderful, and the engine is wonderful if you can ignore the mileage... My best highway towing mileage is about 10, but usually in the 8-9 range.



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Old 02-22-2014, 05:33 PM   #319
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This season it'll be a left over 2013 Silverado HD 2500 extended cab, regular bed. 6.0 gas, 4wd, but 4.10 gears this time.

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Old 02-23-2014, 08:33 AM   #320
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Whats that white stuff on the ground?
Haha, it's what I'm trying to get away from! And will hopefully never see again. I've had enough snow to last me a lifetime.

As for fuel economy, I am hesitant to report on it yet, as I've only towed one time, the 3 hour drive home from picking up the Airstream. But I have to say, if the trip computer is accurate, I'm quite impressed. Towing on average highways with a few bigger hills (not Rocky Mountain hills, but hills that make semi-trucks go up slowly with their 4-way flashers on), I noticed my trip computer telling me I was getting between 17 and 19 MPG towing through the hills. That was with my 6 speed automatic in 5th gear most of the time, and in 4th gear when needed to get up steeper hills. I would have been lucky to get that kind of fuel consumption driving solo in my former 2005 Chevy Astro (with almost 100 less horsepower), let alone towing a 25 foot trailer.

I'm sure my MPG's will drop some more going through the Rocky Mountains. Driving solo, without the trailer, and in "economy" mode on the highway, I've noticed the trip computer telling me I'm getting 27 MPG. Sure, a 3/4 ton diesel pickup would make it easier towing through the mountains. But I'll make it. Can-Am has towed a 28 foot Airstream with 4 people in a 4.0L Town & Country to Colorado and back, and they have several Grand Caravans, Town & Country, Chrysler 300 and Dodge Charger (with similar drivetrain) in their fleet. But what I like, is that I have a nice, comfortable roomy vehicle that fits into most parking spaces and returns excellent fuel economy (considering it's a van) for the 95% of the time I don't need a 3/4 diesel pickup. And when I'm towing, it's nice with the long wheelbase, short rear overhang and lower center of gravity. All-wheel-drive would have been nice, but I can't have everything. As always, I'll just be careful where I go, and park, and worst case, I've got roadside assistance if I need to be towed out. Or I'll pay someone to tow me out and learn from that experience not to do that again, and stick to areas where I won't get stuck.

In any case, I'm only my second tank of gas since buying the van, so it's a bit too early to comment on consistent fuel economy results. In a few weeks or months I can do so. But I can already see I'll be facing a lot of those comments about the ability of this van to tow my Airstream. Even my neighbor, who has a 2012 Grand Caravan, said "are you sure your van can tow that trailer?"
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Old 02-23-2014, 10:40 PM   #322
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Parking? You mean docking! We've got a 2500 megacab 4x4 and sometimes I joke about getting a harbor pilot to get me in some spaces.
I had the same problem parking my 2500 anywhere in the downtown Seattle garages. No way can they fit a 22' rig. The only cure was a used sedan.

But... took the beast up to the passes today, and the long wheelbase and 4x4 was awesome in the heavy snow. No chains needed today.
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