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Old 06-08-2015, 01:20 PM   #43
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The Ultimate Tow Vehicle. Anything less is willful negligence.
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Old 06-08-2015, 01:48 PM   #44
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Talking TV for 25 FC

Just don't do like me. We decided to go for the Bambi so bought a 2015 Tahoe. Then went to buy our FC. Only problem is I left the dealer ordering the 28 FC Rear Queen; to much for Tahoe to handle. With 3,000 miles on it, traded up to 2015 2500HD Duramax diesel. Local dealer really fell in love with us--OUCH. But now have the 28 and glad I went for more truck. Oh, forgot! The ProPride hitch added another $3,000 to the experience.
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Old 06-08-2015, 01:54 PM   #45
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Old 06-08-2015, 02:29 PM   #46
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Remember you won't be towing your AS every day. With that in mind a half ton pu or full size suv will do just fine. I tow my Classic 25 widebody with a Toyota Tundra equipped with the 5.7 v8 tow package. It does a great job and is a pleasure to drive without the AS behind it. We spent 4 months out west and never had a problem in the mountains. My sister tows her 27 safari with a Ford F-150 and has the same results. A 3/4 ton truck is overkill for a 25AS.
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Old 06-08-2015, 02:42 PM   #47
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Effortless towing is a goal for some, not all.

Gentle ride for passengers and our Airstream, maneuverability with and without the Airstream, safe handling during accident avoidance and that is less likely to harm you or others when you can't, stability and rollover resistance when it happens, a decent daily driver when we arrive at our destination or at home, expense of purchase and loan interest and tax and maintenance and fuel/additives, and no need for a truck rated to pull 17,000 lbs to pull our maximum loaded 7,300 lbs 25' Airstream (easiest towing travel trailer on the planet) are goals for others.
My 2012 BMW X5d with reinforced hitch courtesy of Can-Am in London, Ontario, does admirably well pulling our 7000# 2015 rear twin 25 footer, delivering an average of 15.5 mpg towing. We've towed to Arizona and DC from Minnesota without concern or problem. Folding bikes in the car, 800# on the hitch. Its a dream to drive, and easy to take into town after unhitching. Heck, its easy to take into town with the AS connected.

Kudos to Bold for his insightful and hilarious synopsis. Good luck with your decision.

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Old 06-08-2015, 02:50 PM   #48
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Right Tow Vehicle

Well this has been up and down the mountain with comments and advice both good and bad.

Just remember one thing. It is not just about having a vehicle that can pull your AS but its having a vehicle that won't get tossed around when things get rough like a blown tire, ruts in the road or high side winds.

The Airstream is heavy but balanced very well but it can become a nightmare to the tower if the vehicle is to light like a 1/2 tone or SUV.

I have had my 30 ft get caught in some severe side winds and start swaying back and forth and even with my 3/4 ton crew cab it was a battle to handle. I also have very good sway bars.

So keep that in mind if you have not already purchased a vehicle.

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Old 06-08-2015, 03:10 PM   #49
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Well this has been up and down the mountain with comments and advice both good and bad.

Just remember one thing. It is not just about having a vehicle that can pull your AS but its having a vehicle that won't get tossed around when things get rough like a blown tire, ruts in the road or high side winds.

The Airstream is heavy but balanced very well but it can become a nightmare to the tower if the vehicle is to light like a 1/2 tone or SUV.

I have had my 30 ft get caught in some severe side winds and start swaying back and forth and even with my 3/4 ton crew cab it was a battle to handle. I also have very good sway bars.

So keep that in mind if you have not already purchased a vehicle.

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A vehicle with a lower centre of gravity and a modern independent suspension setup is far less likely to get "tossed around" than a vehicle with a solid axle and a higher centre of gravity, such as a large truck. In fact, especially if the hitch setup isn't perfect, the truck can easily be the cause of the problem, rather than the cure.

Add to this that the average van or SUV weighs around 6000lbs these days and you've got all the stability you can hope for. We have never experienced any sway, even in really bad weather, but then we're towing with a Hensley hitch.
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Old 06-08-2015, 03:56 PM   #50
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What is it with this website where everyone feels they have to snipe at each other all the time? It's like there's a rule or something requiring it.
That may have occurred on other threads, but on this one I see only tongue-in-cheek comments (laughing at those threads) and simple statements of opinion.

There is no right answer.
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Old 06-08-2015, 05:00 PM   #51
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I only made my comment to relieve the pressure before the beating each other over the head could start, in good humor and not as an insult to anyone.
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Old 06-08-2015, 05:11 PM   #52
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agree, this has been an amazingly polite and civil thread compared to others. Just a little fun and no one being nasty.
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Old 06-08-2015, 05:16 PM   #53
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We have 25 ft. year 2012 Flying Cloud 7,300 lbs. gross wt/spec. We have towed 20,000 miles with a 2012 Tundra, V8, 5.7L---with ease. Tundra is rated for 10,000 lbs. See Twoairheads | TwoAirheads camping adventures and seeing the sights while living and traveling on an Airstream trailer to see where we have traveled, plenty of mountains in the west.
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Old 06-08-2015, 06:07 PM   #54
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I pull my 25' AS with a F-150 EcoBoost Super Cab with a tow package and built in brake controller and love the backup camera. Carry all I need in the bed with a roll up and lock cover. Pay load is 3100 lbs and 11,300 towing capability. 365 HP & 5,000 rpm and 420 Torque @ 2500rpm. Getting 12+ towing and 15+ solo on regular gas. I have toed with a 3/4 and 1 ton diesel and still think the F-150 is the best overall for towing the AS.
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Old 06-08-2015, 06:31 PM   #55
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Thanks for the posting. I already have a X5d, 2012 with rear air suspension but not the full active suspension. If we decide to move from a/s Class A to something silver I will need at least a 25, probably a FB, and, probably a visit to CanAm. there's a long +/- list to a possible change in configuration but the X5 is sure nice to drive now when not towing.
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Old 06-08-2015, 10:18 PM   #56
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Like many others before me, I too went looking for the answers to these questions. Before we purchased our 27FB, I looked online at dozens of forums. We went to a local AS unit event and interrogated everyone there... the best TV?
... best hitch?
.... best model?
.... AC ducted?
Before I replaced my 2000 F250 with 275000 miles, I researched Ford, Chevy, GM &Ram.
The Wisdom of others was in their questions of me. In the end you must choose what you will be comfortable with and what is within your reach financially. One man said" why sweat it?" About the hitch. "You are buying a 75,000 trailer and pulling it with a 55,000 truck, Blue Ox or Propride, what's $2000 more if it makes you feel safer as you travel with $130000 worth of equipment."

So personally, I believe in as much truck as I can handle. The way I see it it's not just towing, it's stopping too. 3/4 ton diesel, backup camera, Propride and I'm at ease and peace with my decision.

And so, what we can learn from others, is what they chose to do and possibly their thought process in making their decisions. In reality it's their opinion. But since we all went through this process we have "pride of ownership" in those decisions we made. So what's right for me may not be right for anyone else.

My AS dealer told me that I didn't need a 3/4 ton truck and that the Propride was "overkill".
I chose to ignore that advice and I have no regrets. btw, F250 diesel, 20mpg hwy this weekend, 15 towing 27fb 7200lbs plus a bedload of gear.
Not fully broken in yet, only 2500 miles.
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