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Old 06-07-2015, 09:04 PM   #15
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well.....we all know what we would like, what do we really need, but what can we afford.....for me and my a/s 25 footer, a 1/2 ton would do the job, pulling 6,000-7000 pds it would be working at its limit (esp. in the mountains, the 1/2 ton springs would be marginal after some miles, the rear axles with single sealed bearings would cause me concern, but it would still work......if you can afford a 3/4 ton truck with a diesel engine with surely will have it nailed...
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Old 06-07-2015, 09:06 PM   #16
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We got a 25' Safari last November and spent several months looking for a tow vehicle. If you are not familiar with the Trailer Life Towing guides you should take a look. Trailer Towing Guides | Trailer Life Magazine
There is a lot of good information on how to make your selection and an explanation of factors to consider. They have a guide for every year and have a listing of all of the vehicles you may be considering. They will show you the towing capacity of many vehicles and how the different engines, tow packages and rear end ratios affect towing capacity.

You will need to know the weight of your trailer when it is empty and the maximum it might weigh. Our 25' AS could weigh up to 7,500 pounds when fully loaded and the weight that the tongue puts on the back of the truck is about 750 lbs. Because we would like to travel to the mountains and travel long distances we decided we needed a vehicle that would only use 70% of capacity. We wanted to have a little reserve. We were shopping for a truck with 10,000 lbs of towing or better. We opted for the Ram 1500 Outdoorsman. It comes with the Quad cab, 5.7L engine, towing package, integrated brakes and the 3.92 axle ratio. It has a towing limit of 10,210. So far so good. It is a very comfortable - smooth riding truck. No effort to tow the 25'. Haven't been to the mountains yet but don't anticipate any problems.

We had a 2007 Dodge Durango with the same engine (5.7L Hemi) and it seemed fine towing the 25' AS out here on the prairie. I got a little nervous when I began digging into the tow rating on the Durango. The Durango had the towing package from the factory. The Trailer Life guide indicated that the vehicle with the 5.7 engine was good to tow 8,750 lbs. if it had the 3.92 axle ratio. I just assumed that the tow package would include the 3.92 axle ratio. Come to find out, it did not. It had the 3.55 which translates to a towing limit of 7,250. That seemed like we were cutting things too close and decided to move to the Ram.

Moral of the story - there are many factors that go into the determination of the tow limit on any particular vehicle. They may look the same but you need to do your homework. Every make of vehicle seems to have different packages and names. The Trailer Life guide is a good way to cut through it all and gives you some information to size them up. There are many factors that will go into your decision. Quality of the ride was big for me. Didn't like the feel of the heavier trucks. I was familiar with the 5.7L Hemi and liked it. Liked the 8 speed transmission etc.

Good luck with your decision.
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Old 06-07-2015, 09:45 PM   #17
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There are a ton of choices out there and nearly all will work just fine. I chose a 3/4 ton F250 4x4 6.2L gasser because I also use it to haul and tow other things. I carry way too much stuff when we go camping and the extra load capacity is nice. One day I'll figure out how to load the ATV in the bed too. Plus the larger capacity brakes and transmission give me a comfortable cushion for the extremes on the road. We drag a 25 ft. Classic that weighs about 7200 lbs. loaded. Happy trails.
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Old 06-07-2015, 10:07 PM   #18
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Some love their VW Touareg diesel and some their Ford F-350 diesel, and absolutely everything in between, and a few things below and above. Wouldn't tow with anything else.

Good, comfortable towing is a combination of three things. 1/3 trailer, 1/3 hitch and setup, and 1/3 toe vehicle. If the trailer is an Airstream with a well-balanced load and the hitch is he best setup you can get, the range of good tow vehicles to pick from gets much, much larger.

The rest if the question can only be answered by your own needs, wants, and bankroll.
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Old 06-07-2015, 10:36 PM   #19
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Old 06-08-2015, 12:39 AM   #20
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There are a ton of choices out there and nearly all will work just fine. I chose a 3/4 ton F250 4x4 6.2L gasser because I also use it to haul and tow other things. I carry way too much stuff when we go camping and the extra load capacity is nice. One day I'll figure out how to load the ATV in the bed too. Plus the larger capacity brakes and transmission give me a comfortable cushion for the extremes on the road. We drag a 25 ft. Classic that weighs about 7200 lbs. loaded. Happy trails.
Vinnie figured out how to load his "ATV." From Casini, 2011.

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Old 06-08-2015, 01:59 AM   #21
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Hi, I have owned a 25' Safari for over ten years and have towed it with my 2000 Lincoln Navigator [1/2 ton] for all of that time. I now have a 2014 Ford F-150 for a tow vehicle which hasn't had a chance to tow my trailer yet. A properly equipped half ton will work just fine for a 25' Airstream, but not all half tons are equal. Factory tow packages, tow rating, and payload should be considered before buying any tow vehicle.
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Old 06-08-2015, 05:56 AM   #22
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BoldAdventure be damned (and everybody else, for that matter) I pull my 25' with my Dodge Durango.
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Old 06-08-2015, 08:15 AM   #23
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the simple answer, although i like the expert advice above, is to carefully check out the carrying capacity of the vehicle you intend to purchase. keep in mind that as you add accessories, you lose tow capacity. while a 25' trailer does not weigh that much in trailer land, i always find it more comfortable to not be right up against the limits of your tow vehicle. so do your homework and you will find your answer. diesel vs gas is pretty much a personal choice but in my experience, you will get way better fuel efficiency with a diesel. as usual, there is no 'one' answer.

i am on PU # 9 or 10 right now and have towed with 1/2, 3/4 and now a 1 ton. all of them did the job but i can tell you my current truck makes towing effortless.
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Old 06-08-2015, 08:40 AM   #24
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I tow with a 2010 Tundra 5.7L SR5 Double Cab 2x4. Payload door sticker shows 1465lbs. I use an Equalizer WDH.

I'm currently on my first trip west. The truck has handled the trailer fine though strong crosswinds and a thunderstorm going through Albuquerque. Mileage, hand calculated is from 10.5mpg to 13.5mpg maintaining 60mph. This is so far on I44 and I40 heading west.

I've only had to drop to 3rd gear on a couple of short steep hills and at close to 4k rpm I was able to maintain 60mph. Going home on I70 to the Eisenhower tunnel will be it's biggest test.

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Effortless towing is a goal for some, not all.

Gentle ride for passengers and our Airstream, maneuverability with and without the Airstream, safe handling during accident avoidance and that is less likely to harm you or others when you can't, stability and rollover resistance when it happens, a decent daily driver when we arrive at our destination or at home, expense of purchase and loan interest and tax and maintenance and fuel/additives, and no need for a truck rated to pull 17,000 lbs to pull our maximum loaded 7,300 lbs 25' Airstream (easiest towing travel trailer on the planet) are goals for others.
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Old 06-08-2015, 09:38 AM   #26
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What is it with this website where everyone feels they have to snipe at each other all the time? It's like there's a rule or something requiring it.

My opinion:

A late model 1/2 ton pickup should be able to tow it just fine. A 3/4 ton would give you an extra margin of power and capacity in the bed, but it probably isn't strictly necessary.

We have a 3/4 ton truck, partly because the 1/2 ton trucks weren't available in the configuration we wanted (long bed + crew cab, with something nicer than vinyl seats). But I was definitely researching the 1/2 ton trucks when we bought our 3/4 ton, and I've seen 1/2 ton trucks towing 30' trailers.

The one exception would be if you plan to carry hundreds and hundreds of pounds of gear in the bed of the truck. Probably not.

(I'm not the right guy to ask about SUVs.)
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Hello South Coast,

North Coast here. Lots of folks pulling with 1/2 ton trucks or equivalent SUVs, and they are fine. We prefer a diesel 3/4 or 1 ton, as we often have a large truck camper on the rig.

If you don't have a camper, something like a F150, Tundra, GMC crew cab, short box with a canopy top would be my recommendation. They will do a good job pulling a 25' trailer, be comfortable, and have enough room for people and camping gear.

Get something that does have a BU camera, integrated brake controller, and a good tow haul type transmission.
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What we use to tow a 25'

We purchased a Toyota Tundra after evaluating SUV's which were boarder line and to capacity. The Tundra offered a larger heavy duty rear end and larger brakes. This truck pulls our trailer effortlessly. Strongly recommend to check them out.
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