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Old 09-07-2005, 02:29 PM   #57
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It's been a while since I've been out to this site. I am getting ready to pick up my '63 Overlander. I have a few questions if anyone would like to give some advice:

1) Ford Excursion, Ford Expedition, Suburan 2500 or Toyota V8 4-Runner as tow vehicle?

2) Anyone know what a '63 Overlander, 26 foot, weighs?

3) Any tips for traveling x-country re: favorite camp-grounds or towing tips.?

Any advice is appreciated.

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Old 09-07-2005, 02:43 PM   #58
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I have a PDF file I downloaded from some site that had this info, if you want I can email it to you.
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Old 09-07-2005, 03:59 PM   #59
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It's been a while since I've been out to this site. I am getting ready to pick up my '63 Overlander. I have a few questions if anyone would like to give some advice:

1) Ford Excursion, Ford Expedition, Suburan 2500 or Toyota V8 4-Runner as tow vehicle?

3) Any tips for traveling x-country re: favorite camp-grounds or towing tips.?
Hi '63 Princess.

We have a 2005 Ford Excursion w/6.0L PS Diesel engine, 3.73 rear axle. It's towing capicity is 11,000 lbs, which should be plenty to tow your 63 overlander, fully loaded. We like it a lot as a TV. We tow a '05 CCD Int'l which comes in around 6,500 lbs as we have it loaded. Our TV has towed it magnificently up very steep, narrow, and winding grades. We've been traveling FT since May 19, 2005, and will continue through the end of Oct '05. We had looked at the Expedition, Suburban, and Toyota, as well as the VW Toureg as our TV's. We decided on the the Excursion b/c we had four people traveling in total, a large golden retriever, fly fishing gear, climbing gear, hiking gear, bikes, you name it - we needed A LOT of room, and the Expedition provided us with the most room. The diesel engine is great, with about 13 mpg towing and 18 mpg not towing (but w/driver, passenger, dog, and gear).

Towing tips - make sure at minimum you have a weight distribution hitch and sway bar, as well as a good brake system.

Good luck and have fun!
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Old 09-08-2005, 05:37 PM   #60
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'63 Princess -

here's a few more thread discussions on the Excursion you might be interested in:

http://www.airforums.com/forum...ad.php?t=17785


and this one, post #5, is good on some of the cons against the Excursion (but in my opinion, my Excursion has handled nicely and the after market changes recommended do not really apply to my towing needs):

http://www.airforums.com/forum...ad.php?t=17489

And this one compares GM with Ford:

http://www.airforums.com/forum...ad.php?t=12014

Also, on towing tips, keep in mind that a shorter wheelbase (as you will have with the Toyata), is not so great in windy conditions or when a huge semi provides you with tons of air displacement as it passes you in the opposite direction on a 2 lane hwy. The longer the wheelbase, the more stable the tow in adverse conditions. The Suburban and Excursion have longer wheelbases (130 inches and 137 inches, respectively). Hope that helps.
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Thank you so much, that WAS very helpful.

I drove a diesel Excursion; it was too loud, and not very comfortable.

I am going to buy the Suburban 2500. Only problem is, I can only find a 6.0L with a 3.73 rear axle rather than the 4.10 axle. I hope this doesn't prove to be a problem.

I am scheduled to drive x-country in 3 weeks. I am SO EXCITED!!!
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I am going to buy the Suburban 2500. Only problem is, I can only find a 6.0L with a 3.73 rear axle rather than the 4.10 axle. I hope this doesn't prove to be a problem.
If it's a diesel, the 3.73 axle should be fine as diesel engines have plenty of torque with that ratio. If it's a gasser, the 4.10 is a better ratio.

Have fun on your x-country trip and safe travels!
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I am going to buy the Suburban 2500. Only problem is, I can only find a 6.0L with a 3.73 rear axle rather than the 4.10 axle. I hope this doesn't prove to be a problem.

I am scheduled to drive x-country in 3 weeks. I am SO EXCITED!!!
I just drove x-country over the summer. CA to ME and back. My 6.0L with 4:10 performed so AWESOME, even over the Eisenhower Tunnel in the Rockies. I love my Vortec 6000! Enjoy your trip and new 'Burb.
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We had a '98 Burb 2500, 454/4:10/4X4/LT and towed a 31' Excella and a 34' Limited about 80,000 miles with it. We had the Banks exhaust and the K&N air filter put on and it made a big difference in power, but didn't get any better mileage, (8-9 towing, 10-12 solo).
We loved this car, but the shifting on hills got to me and decided to upgrade to a Duramax Silverado.
No question about it, the Suburban is a fine tow vehicle with lots of comfort, etc. and the Silverado is overkill but is without question a really good tow vehicle.
The Hensley Arrow makes towing a dream; we've had ours since '99 and wouldn't think of towing without it.
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