View Poll Results: For those towing 25 or larger;
Have you previously towed your current camper with any or 1 ton (Dodge, Ford, and GM) and moved to any ton vehicle? 5 29.41%
Moving to a 1/2 ton truck from a 3/4 ton truck was a good move. 14 82.35%
Moving to a 1/2 ton truck from a 3/4 ton truck was the worst thing I did. 0 0%
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Old 01-10-2008, 02:22 PM   #1
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What do you tow your large (25'+) AS with?

Lets find out if anyone has gone from a 3/4 ton or 1 ton truck to a 1/2 ton and is glad they did?!
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Old 01-10-2008, 03:45 PM   #2
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Unless I would downsize the trailer below 25', I'd never consider it. My my 6,000 lb. 27' Safari was towed with a 1/2 van and the current 3/4 van. After this experience I'd never go back to the 1/2 due to the superiority of the suspension system of the 3/4 ton vehicle.

Obviously the better axle ratio and bigger engine offered improvements on that side of the fence, but the suspension robustness made a noticeable difference on rough roads and roads with dips.

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Had an '03 Navigator 4wd with independent rear suspension and the 300 HP engine. On paper it looked like it would work. In reality, I drove 6 miles with the 25FB and turned around. I've used the Lincoln to haul cars to Scottsdale without any problems. While I could change gears, I couldn't change the wheelbase.

I've had 3 3/4 ton trucks and a one ton, all crew cabs with 4wd. I used to pull stock trailers with three or four horses over Wolf Creek Pass and Lizard Head Pass. A good stock trailer and 3 quarter horses are about the same weight as a 25 FB. I can't even image pulling that load with a half ton. I think Crawford Gene may have some insight when he referred to the Tundra as a "5/8 ton" pick-up.
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I read this quickly, but what about those towing 25 and larger and not wanting or needng a 3/4 ton?
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We have a 2005 Safari 25FB (7500+/-#). We have towed it about 30,000 miles in the last 19 months. Most of this towing was done with a 2005 3/4 ton Suburban. We also have a 2004 1/2 Tahoe that we have used to pull the Airstream on short trips.

The 3/4 ton Sub is defintely a better vehicle for the job. The Tahoe strains more in the pull, and is not as capable in the breaking department.

In my book , the 3/4 ton Sub is the hands down winner.

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I read this quickly, but what about those towing 25 and larger and not wanting or needng a 3/4 ton?
Trying to determine if anyone has moved down from a 3/4 ton or 1 ton to a 1/2 ton...

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Trying to determine if anyone has moved down from a 3/4 ton or 1 ton to a 1/2 ton...

Thanx, Bill
Nope, I've been happy with the 1/2 ton.

Maybe I qualify for the poll because I have pulled my 25' Safari with our 3/4 ton Fire Department vehicle for department related training that was in the boonies. That has given me a comparison.
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Old 01-11-2008, 11:12 AM   #8
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First towed w a 1/2 ton Suburban. switched to the 3/4 Suburban w stouter drive train, heavier duty brakes and larger motor. have been very happy w the change.
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Never owned a 3/4 ton. Towed a 30 foot ultralight with my '01 Yukon for three years and am now towing our 25SS Safari (6 feet shorter but the same weight). The Yukon tows the Safari just fine (better than or former SOB of course) but I'm still planning on downsizing my next TV. SUV's short wheel base and high centre of gravity really don't make poor TV's (I wanted it for the 7 passenger seating).

I've never been convinced PU trucks make great TV's either (large rear overhang, high centre of gravity, poor fuel economy when not towing) but if you need the cargo carrying capacity there's not much of a choice.

Not sure what I'll end up with, but hopefully something will materialize in the next 5 years.

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Old 01-11-2008, 12:27 PM   #10
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I'm interested in the responses here because Ford is introducing a 4.4 liter diesel for the 1/2 ton trucks and GM is bringing on a 4.5 liter as well. I can't speak for the GM, but I know the Ford articles I read had the specs at 300 hp and 500 lb ft torque. My 7.3 liter is 250/500, so I would expect similar pulling power and economy. I'd love to have a 1/2 ton tow vehicle because the Excursion is just way too big.
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The newer engines will be much smaller with higher output.

The 2011 Ford Explorer, being released in 2010 will have a 2.0-liter four-cylinder producing 275 hp and 280 lb-ft of torque. The premium 3.5-liter, 340-hp, 340-lb-ft V6 will be offered when the Explorer goes into production.

Mated to a six-speed automatic transmission, the new Explorer engines are expected to improve fuel economy by 10 percent to 30 percent over normally aspirated engines producing similar power.

In other words, EcoBoost technology means that a turbo six-cylinder will take the place of a standard V8 more efficiently, while turbo four-cylinder engines will provide the grunt that used to require V6 power.

Times are a changing.
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Be interesting if the person(s) that responded about moving down to a 1/2 ton would provide some commentary...
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Nope, I've been happy with the 1/2 ton.

Maybe I qualify for the poll because I have pulled my 25' Safari with our 3/4 ton Fire Department vehicle for department related training that was in the boonies. That has given me a comparison.
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Our department vehicle is a Ford F-250 Diesel 4 door. I towed the 25' over to the Sierra Nevada foothills for a river rescue class. Several pretty good grades, no towering climbs.
I thought that I would be "wowed" by the difference in towing and the way it felt. I was not. While there was more power with the diesel, that was the only remarkable difference IMO.
I did not notice any huge difference in handling, different yes. Better - Not much if any.
I know this will get the juices flowing with some...
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Lets find out if anyone has gone from a 3/4 ton or 1 ton truck to a 1/2 ton and is glad they did?!
I did, quite a while ago. Went from a 1ton van to a 1/2ton SUV to tow a 71 TradeWind, and am now towing my 63 Overlander with a new 1/2 ton SUV.
I am glad I did for the most part. The only part that is lacking with the SUV is the huge amount of space available in the van. We bring less junk now.
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