Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 08-17-2017, 09:36 PM   #1
1 Rivet Member
 
Roslyn , New York
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 12
What do you think of this combo?

Hi everyone

First post here and will be joining the airstream club very soon.

I have pretty much decided on the 2017 or 2016 flying cloud 25rb queen.

With this decision I will be needing to upgrade my vehicle so I can actually tow this thing lol.

Currently in a 2015 ford explorer sport which definitely cannot pull the 25rb

I really like the SUVs over pickups so if I can avoid it I would like to. I have been considering the Sequoia and Expedition

There is a nice leftover 2016 Sequoia platinum for a steal at a local dealership.

But I have also thought about the ford expedition el which has a slightly better tow capacity.

Any thoughts or suggestions?
__________________

__________________
homeaway is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2017, 09:40 PM   #2
Rivet Master
 
Becky B.'s Avatar
 
1964 17' Bambi II
Vintage Kin Owner
Schererville , Indiana
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,616
Images: 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by homeaway View Post
Hi everyone

First post here and will be joining the airstream club very soon.

I have pretty much decided on the 2017 or 2016 flying cloud 25rb queen.

With this decision I will be needing to upgrade my vehicle so I can actually tow this thing lol.

Currently in a 2015 ford explorer sport which definitely cannot pull the 25rb

I really like the SUVs over pickups so if I can avoid it I would like to. I have been considering the Sequoia and Expedition

There is a nice leftover 2016 Sequoia platinum for a steal at a local dealership.

But I have also thought about the ford expedition el which has a slightly better tow capacity.

Any thoughts or suggestions?
Love my 2015 Expedition EL XLT with the HD tow package. I use it as my every day vehicle & she tows my 32' Avion like a dream.
__________________

__________________
Becky


1964 Bambi II
1988 Avion 32S
Becky B. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2017, 10:10 PM   #3
Rivet Master
 
dkottum's Avatar
 
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake , Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,716
Ask this forum and you will learn what everybody loves about their own tow vehicle and hates about everybody else's.

Ask the hitch experts at perhaps N. America's best RV hitch shop and you will learn something useful.

http://www.canamrv.ca/towing-expertise/contact/

I suspect they will like all three tow vehicles you mentioned very much, including the one you are driving now.
__________________
Doug and Cheryl
2012 FC RB, Michelin 16, ProPride 1400
2016 Ram 1500 Laramie Crew Cab 4X4 Ecodiesel 3.92 axles

The Truth is More Important Than the Facts
dkottum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2017, 12:17 AM   #4
Moderator
 
moosetags's Avatar

 
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach , Florida
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 10,718
Images: 5
Greetings from the Florida Panhandle

Welcome to the Forums. We're glad to have you with us.

The Explorer Sport is probably not to the task at hand. The other possible tow vehicles you mention will most likely be satisfactory if set up properly. Be sure to check the tires on possible tow vehicle. Some SUV's may have P rated tires that may not be sufficient for your intended use.

Brian
__________________
SuEllyn & Brian McCabe
WBCCI #3628 -- AIR #14872 -- TAC #FL-7
2015 FC 25' FB (Lucy) with HAHA
2005 Suburban 2500 Quadrasteer (Olivia) & 2011 Silverado 3500 (Fred)
moosetags is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2017, 05:46 AM   #5
4 Rivet Member
 
2016 30' International
Florence , Alabama
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 357
The sequoia's are fantastic vehicles but you may get better MPG from the Ford.
__________________
joshjack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2017, 12:28 PM   #6
3 Rivet Member
 
AirMiles's Avatar
 
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Apollo Beach , Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 156
For me, the most important number in my next tow vehicle selection will be "payload". The payload for each vehicle is on a sticker with yellow inside the vehicle's driver's door. My truck's sticker says "Max Payload 1377#" and I find it difficult to keep under that number while towing a 2017 Flying Cloud 25 Front Bedroom.

That 1377# payload disappears really quickly. Here is how on my rig. My wife, me and the dog 450#, my tonneau cover 50#, my generator 100#, lawn chairs, grill, cook stove 50#, my weight distribution hitch 90#. This totals 740# and now I need to add the tongue weight of the Airstream. There is only 637# left! Now my truck's 1377# payload assumes 175# for a driver, so I can add that back to get 812# for the Airstream tongue weight. Luckily, my WDH was able to distribute some of my Airstream's factory spec 837# tongue weight to the Airstream axles so I could stay under my truck's max payload. But you can see that I cannot even add a decent size cooler to my truck without being over its payload!

Now some will say that payload doesn't matter. But it matters to me and I choose to stay within all weight ratings provided by the manufacturers of my rig. Other's can choose to ignore payload.

Finally, "Platinum" trim vehicles will have the lowest payload of the model line because they include the most heavy options like, leather, power seats, tool boxes/storage compartments, a 100# sub-woofer and a dozen heavy speakers! So a stripped down version of my truck might have a 2000# payload where my Platinum has 1377#. Watch the yellow sticker on the actual tow vehicle you select. They are customized to the options on the vehicle. My next truck will have closer to 2000# of payload so I don't have to worry about adding a cooler in my truck.
__________________
2017 Flying Cloud 25FB (Miles) 72 nights 10,513 miles
2016 Nissan Titan XD Diesel 4x4 Tow Vehicle (Max)
2013 Casita SD17 89 nights 16,200 miles < 2 years
AirMiles is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2017, 12:32 PM   #7
2 Rivet Member
 
2005 28' Safari
Saint Joseph , Michigan
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 39
we had a 2011 F150 Ecoboost which did a great job. Got a pretty good deal on a 2016 F150 3.5 which does an OK job, wife got a 2016 Expedition XLT King Ranch which does the best of all.. many TV threads everyone has an opinion including the guys that want to pull a 7K trailer with a diesel, go figure, bottom line what works for you... but given what you said re SUV, check out the Expeditions lots of low mile used online..
__________________
TruckerFritz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2017, 12:58 PM   #8
Stay CazuaL
 
cazual6's Avatar
 
2014 19' Flying Cloud
Reseda , California
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 479
Images: 1
From experience:

Get a truck if you have big things to carry such as bicycles. Do not put a hitch on the back of the trailer and put a bike carrier. As I said, from experience.

What I have done, and plan on doing, is renting trucks.

More cost effective to pay less than $500 for a weekend than payments for years not to mention maintenance.

So decide whether it is worth buy or renting as an option.
__________________
"No job is so simple that it cannot be done wrong."
"Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege."
"Either I will find a way, or I will make one."
"Sweat is your fat crying"
WBCCI 9164
cazual6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2017, 01:42 PM   #9
3 Rivet Member
 
2015 30' International
FREDERICK , Maryland
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 234
Make sure they have the towing package. I would choose the Toyota over the Ford. My Tundra (same platform as Sequoia) pulled my 25 footer nicely. Toyota should last longer IMHO.
But you do need to look at the towing and payload capacity of each carefully.
__________________
Doc Foster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2017, 03:18 PM   #10
Obviously-NOT
 
james.mileur's Avatar
 
2017 30' Classic
Kalispell , Montana
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 410
Sequoia and Cargo trailer

We did a 2008 Sequoia fully loaded at max payload pulling a 16' 7500# trailer loaded to max from RI to ID in 2009 without a problem (my first long tow adventure). I installed a brake controller and ProPride and about Kansas, quit looking back to make sure it was still there.
__________________
James Mileur, HY80-2-Al,
2017 Classic Twin, 2016 RAM 3500 Megacab, ProPride hitch
james.mileur is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2017, 06:07 PM   #11
2 Rivet Member
 
camperguy58's Avatar
 
Currently Looking...
Folsom , California
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 68
Do the math. Trailer base weight, trailer GVWR, Loaded weight, Tongue weight, and then your TV GVWR, TV payload, and then your TV Gross Combined Vehicle Weight, and any reduction for altitude in the TV owners manual. You may be surprised just how large a TV you need.

Good luck, have fun, and stay safe,
__________________
Pat
2012 Jumping Jack
Looking at Sport 22FB, maybe 16RB
2017 Honda Ridgeline Black Edition
Folsom, CA
camperguy58 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2017, 06:31 PM   #12
1 Rivet Member
 
Roslyn , New York
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 12
Thanks for all the help everyone! Guess Ill have to do some calculations once I get my trailer and load it up.

Seems that its like everyone says and payload will be my determining factor in selecting a tow vehicle.
__________________
homeaway is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2017, 08:53 PM   #13
Rivet Master
 
Piggy Bank's Avatar
 
2017 25' Flying Cloud
2015 22' FB Sport
Kansas City , Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,047
Assuming that either turn out to have adequate payload then I would choose based on how they drive, fit and feel, easy of parking, and whichever you just like better.

I have a Tundra and like it a lot. It is my daily driver. It tows our 25 FC twin rear bed nicely. (we did Yellowstone so have done some long days and mountain driving with the combo).

The only other thing that may differ would be that my Tundra does not have factory tow mirrors. We started with tow mirrors that clip onto the standard mirrors. After the Yellowstone trip we just invested in McKesh mirrors. If the Ford had factory tow mirrors that pull out truly wide enough away from the vehicle, that might be another point to consider.
__________________

Piggy Bank
Piggy Bank is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2017, 09:17 PM   #14
1 Rivet Member
 
Roslyn , New York
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 12
I am leaning toward the expedition el at this point. They offer an option for the axle ratio


3.73 comes standard on the 4x4 el but optionally 3.31


Would this affect me in any way and if so which would you choose?
__________________

__________________
homeaway is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
My Kids think it’s crazy, Grandkids think it’s cool pdavitt Member Introductions 20 07-01-2017 03:05 PM
"I think I can, I think I can, I think I can".... 2Rhinos Repairing/Replacing Floor &/or Frame 14 08-17-2011 01:39 PM
Ten Things I Think... I think hampstead38 1967 Overlander 30 11-08-2008 07:48 AM
hello when you think you have it all watchout housebg Member Introductions 1 11-28-2005 04:20 PM
And you think you got a deal... BobbyW Our Community 21 06-05-2002 07:54 PM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by



Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:47 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.