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Old 09-10-2015, 03:14 PM   #1
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What do you think of this combination?

Hi all,
I am new to the Airstream Forum and Airstream. We have a 40' Newmar Class A that we have enjoyed a bunch over the years. Now, we have reached a stage where we would like to shorten our trips and most important, expand our choices in the roads we travel and places to park. A 40' motorhome with toad has its limits in this regard.

So, after some initial crusing of the Internet, I have arrived at what I think will fit our needs. (How did we ever figure this out without Google?).

We are looking at a Flying Cloud 25' and towing with a Ford Excursion Max.
The weight rating on the Flying Cloud is 7300 Lbs and the tow rating on the Excursion Max is 9300 Lbs. I have a lot of confidence in the Blue Ox product so will likely make the connection with the Blue Ox anti sway set up.

What do you think?

Thank you all in advance for your expert advice and valued opinions. I have towed a car behind our motorhome for years but this is my first at towing a TT.
Looking forward to joining the Airstream Lifestyle.
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Old 09-10-2015, 03:27 PM   #2
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Welcome, Sounds like excellant combo to me.
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Old 09-10-2015, 03:31 PM   #3
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What is the engine and axle ratio?

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What is the engine and axle ratio?

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What is the engine and axle ratio?

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3.5L Eco Boost V6 - 365 HP @ 5000 RPM, 480 Lb/Ft @ 2250 RPM
Limited Slip Axel ratio is 3.73 (Std on the Max, 3.31 on the non Max)
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Old 09-10-2015, 04:44 PM   #6
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Ah yes,

3.5L Eco Boost V6 - 365 HP @ 5000 RPM, 480 Lb/Ft @ 2250 RPM
Limited Slip Axel ratio is 3.73 (Std on the Max, 3.31 on the non Max)
I made an error on my OP, the vehicle is a Ford Expedition and Not an Excursion.
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Old 09-11-2015, 09:48 AM   #7
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I'd say you are good to go power wise. What is the payload sticker on the driver's door show as your available payload? Tongue weight on the 25 is usually higher than what AS publishes. My Classic 25fb is about 1100lbs.

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Old 09-11-2015, 10:46 AM   #8
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Welcome to the Forums!

You have asked a question that stirs a lot of very passionate debate here.

When it comes to tow vehicle/trailer combos, hitch setups, brake controllers, tires and wheels, and even the best time of year for camping all of us seem to have our own opinion.

Some prefer smaller trailers and vehicles, some like larger.


If you are coming from an large rig with lots of storage, the first change is the reduced amount of storage in an Airstream. Especially for anything "dirty". Airstreams don't have basements.

Grills and the fuel, chairs and a table, and ice chests are just a few of the things I don't like to haul inside the living space.

There are no onboard generators in these trailers and you mention finding spots that you could not visit in your motorhome. So, you will probably want a portable gen set and fuel to boondock in a nice remote spot somewhere.

These also have to have a place to travel.

Like I say, folks deal with these concerns in lots of ways and some manage in mini vans, sedans, and SUVs.

Some of us prefer pickups.


Some like smaller power and some like diesels.

If you like being able to travel where you want, when you want, and with what you want the rig you suggest seems a under powered and limited to me.

But as I mentioned, like those who have commented before me, this is simply my opinion.


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Old 09-11-2015, 11:27 AM   #9
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What is an Excursion Max?
I've heard of a Ford Excursion. They haven't manufactured them in several years.
If it is an Excursion as I know an Excursion, built on an F250 chassis, it should work out fine.
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Old 09-11-2015, 12:43 PM   #10
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We tow our 25' FC with a 2008 Expedition and are very happy with it. It is only the two of us with some small pets, so we don't carry much extra "stuff". Cargo capacity could pose a problem if you need to carry a lot with you.
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Old 09-11-2015, 01:00 PM   #11
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We tow our FC25RB with a 2013 Expedition EL (the USA name for the Expedition MAX).

Works really well. Our payload, as per the door sticker is approx 1400lbs. This is the limiting factor. We load the SUV up to about 1300lbs... I see a F150 in our future. I would like a payload of closer to 2000lbs.
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The Expedition Ecoboost and 25' Airstream are a near perfectly matched combination. Don't skimp on the hitch or getting it set up perfectly as possible as that is the third element of this great travel/camping rig.

The big deal (and you'll see too much of it made here) with medium sized combinations is cargo carrying capacity. Stay within load limits on the truck and trailer axles and tires. Plenty of ways to do that. Haul less stuff in the truck if you need more load capacity, adjust trailer loads and/or equipment if the hitch weight is too much, and (again) get the hitch properly set up so it can redistribute some of the loads as needed to stay within specs.
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Old 09-11-2015, 04:39 PM   #13
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Ah yes,

3.5L Eco Boost V6 - 365 HP @ 5000 RPM, 480 Lb/Ft @ 2250 RPM
Limited Slip Axel ratio is 3.73 (Std on the Max, 3.31 on the non Max)
We are towing a 2014 Serenity 25FB with a 2008 Range Rover HSE with 300HP and 325 lbs of torque and 7,771 lbs tow rating. We are quite happy with it this side of the Sierras. I think you will be surprised with your performance having the higher HP, torque and tow rating. When we decide to go east or Alaska Highway, we will be looking at a 3/4-ton truck, but until then.....
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If you are going to be in the hills often I would suggest a trans cooler and have it installed on the return line AFTER the radiator.

Everyone will tell you that is illegal, fattening, and immoral but it will serve you well.

I ran my Suburban 190,000 miles this way running the trans at 160 F in the summer and 105 in the winter. The only heat the trans saw was the blow by from the engine and radiator.
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