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Old 07-14-2011, 02:00 PM   #99
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As stated earlier in this thread, the max hitch/tongue weight for all Touareg factory hitches is 770lbs. It's up to you to formulate you're own conclusion or alternative methods.
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Old 07-14-2011, 09:01 PM   #100
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As stated earlier in this thread, the max hitch/tongue weight for all Touareg factory hitches is 770lbs. It's up to you to formulate you're own conclusion or alternative methods.
I actually weighed my tongue using a Sherline Trailer Tongue Weight Scale which I purchased. It is supposed to be accurate +/- 2% in the center and +/- 3% near the edge of the scale. I suspect a lot of trailer tongues are heavier than most owners realize, unless they actually weigh it. There is nothing unusual about my 23' Safari to make the tongue heavier than other similar Safaris.

In any case I don't think a Touareg will work for us. We visited the local VW dealer and test drove one today. It drives beautifully and the TDI diesel is very smooth, quiet and powerful. I wish we could use a Touareg as a tow vehicle but it appears it will not work.

The actual tongue weight limit on the Touareg is 616 lbs, as stated in the owner's manual and on the factory installed receiver. I don't know where you or other forum members got the 770 lb figure that is quoted over and over. Maybe pre-2011 Touaregs had heavier tongue weight limits. According to the owner's manual no weight distributing hitch can be used. I think these two factors eliminate the possibility of using a Touareg to tow our 23' Airstream.

I have images from the 2011 Tuareg owner's manual and from labels on the hitch and door for documentation. Unfortunately I cannot upload the images into this forum. I successfully uploaded the images to the ClubTouareg.com forum, which uses the same forum software. Also the location of the center of the ball must be located within some pretty close tolerances, according to another label.
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This has been discussed on many forums including this one, club touareg and a few others. Some stickers are incorrect. Call VW and have them send you out a new sticker. They will confirm that the actual tongue weight rating is 770lbs. I too had the 616lb sticker - called VW, and they confirmed that it is not correct and sent me a new sticker.
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Also if you look carefully the rating in the manual is different by a couple of pounds from the sticker on your hitch. Really don't know how they messed that up so badly. And finally - yes you can use weigh distributing hitches on Touaregs, though it is not recommended with air suspension. They changed that on the new stickers as well.
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Old 07-15-2011, 11:51 AM   #103
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This has been discussed on many forums including this one, club touareg and a few others. Some stickers are incorrect. Call VW and have them send you out a new sticker. They will confirm that the actual tongue weight rating is 770lbs. I too had the 616lb sticker - called VW, and they confirmed that it is not correct and sent me a new sticker.
I have read about that on the forums, but the owner's manual as well as the sticker were in agreement that the tongue weight limit on the 2011 Touareg is 616 lbs. Are both the sticker and owner's manual wrong?

I posted photos of the sticker and owner's manual on the ClubTouareg,com forum. For some reason I cannot upload my photos to this forum. In any case the killer is the fact that VW recommendss against using a weight distributing hitch in no uncertain terms in their owner's manual. Again I have a photo of the appropriate page on the ClubTouareg.com forum.
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Also if you look carefully the rating in the manual is different by a couple of pounds from the sticker on your hitch. Really don't know how they messed that up so badly. And finally - yes you can use weigh distributing hitches on Touaregs, though it is not recommended with air suspension. They changed that on the new stickers as well.
Again take a look at my photos on ClubTouareg.com.

Towing capacity - Page 7 - Club Touareg Forums

I did notice that the label on the hitch indicates a WD hitch but the weight limits are exactly the same at 616 lbs for the tongue weight.

Again according to the owner's manual they state in no uncertain terms that a weight distributing hitch cannot be used. See my photo.
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Old 07-16-2011, 05:42 PM   #105
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The manual and the label shown do not make sense.

If you have a 7700 lb trailer, you would need at least 770 lbs (10%) on the hitch for safe towing.

And if you have 770 lbs on the hitch of this vehicle, you would need a weight distribution hitch for safe towing.

It is poor practice for a company that advertises the Touareg towing ability by showing it pulling a Boeing 747, cannot get its towing instructions or labels in order.

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The manual and the label shown do not make sense.

If you have a 7700 lb trailer, you would need at least 770 lbs (10%) on the hitch for safe towing.

And if you have 770 lbs on the hitch of this vehicle, you would need a weight distribution hitch for safe towing.

It is poor practice for a company that advertises the Touareg towing ability by showing it pulling a Boeing 747, cannot get its towing instructions or labels in order.

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I don't know if it is a problem with the towing instructions or the Touareg itself. The only documentation available to me are the labels on the Touareg and the towing instructions in the owner's manual. If an accident occurred that was caused by the towing capabilities of the Touareg, I am sure VW would would deny any responsibility if the instructions in the owner's manual were not followed exactly.
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Yes, but then VW, or any other car company, would deny responsibility no matter how little you were towing.

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Old 07-17-2011, 01:32 AM   #108
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Yes, but then VW, or any other car company, would deny responsibility no matter how little you were towing.

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Perhaps! But one would stand a better chance if his rig met the specs of the tow vehicle.

As much as we like the Touareg we are looking elsewhere for our next tow vehicle.
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The whole point of our search for a new tow vehicle was to find a single vehicle that could double as our tow vehicle as well as our every day auto, replacing both our large and ponderous Sequoia and our Honda CRV. A pickup is not what we need. We have downsized from a 3200 square foot house in Vegas with a three car garage to a 1100 square foot condo with a single parking space in downtown Portland and do not need/want a "brute" of a SUV or pickup.

We are now looking at a Jeep Grand Cherokee. It can tow 7200 lbs and the tongue limit for the 4x4 version is 720 lbs. We may be able to get our Airstream hitch weight down to that number. Most importantly the Jeep accommodates a weight distributing hitch. Unfortunately the Jeep does not come in a diesel version, which would be ideal. Jeeps are available in other countries with diesel engines.
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There are rumors of the diesel GC coming here for 2013. No idea how sure those rumors are though.

A Dodge Durango (shares the GC's platform) will also tow this trailer nicely; its V6 is rated to tow 6200 lbs but it will be fairly slow going. (The tongue weight on the V6 is rated at 620 lbs, but since the V8 uses the same hitch and is rated at 720 lbs and has less payload capacity, the tongue weight limitation seems to be a lazy "10% of towing weight" suggestion.)

Frankly, I think that with a discussion with Andy Thomson at CanAm, you could either figure out a strategy to get the tongue weight down (he did it with a 23' International to tow it with a Mustang) or to beef up the Touareg's hitch.

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Or you could find a nice used 2008 Grand Cherokee with the diesel. Not quite as nice as the new GC, but it gets you the diesel you want.

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