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Old 11-11-2010, 06:37 AM   #1
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We are about to put a Hensley hitch system on this 2008 wagon to pull a 28' Airstream International. Anyone out there with experience with this as a tow vehicle? Issues to be prepared for? Thanks
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We are about to put a Hensley hitch system on this 2008 wagon to pull a 28' Airstream International. Anyone out there with experience with this as a tow vehicle? Issues to be prepared for? Thanks
The numbers don't look like this will work.
Towing Capacity= 3300 lbs
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My wife has a V-70 wagon,there is no way I would try to pull an Airstream with it,no matter what kind of hitch you put on it. Dave
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what happened to the s'burb with a 4.10 rear end from last year ?

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f463...cle-57682.html

trying to match a trailer of that size to a small station wagon is silly.

the 28 and haha will more than double the payload and towing capacity.

and grossly violate every other sensible towing metric.

will this make for safe, relaxed, confident towing ?

or is this just pre-winter dreaming...

drag u'self back to your older perfect tow thread and REread the real life options for a 28.

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Old 11-11-2010, 07:26 AM   #5
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Good day dff

Many cars/wagons have great potential as TV's but in some cases need special evaluation/considerations/and or hardware/setup.

Many forum members would suggest using a towing specialist who has the knowledge and experiance to assist in such a venture.

Many forum members would suggest a specialist like Can Am RV in Ontario.
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The V70 3.2 is on my list of potential tow vehicles next time around. I presently tow our Overlander with a 2001 S60 - no turbo, manual transmission. I've towed nearly 20,000 miles in the last four years, and despite the clutch slip needed to get 9,500 to 10,000 lbs combined weight going on a grade, the car still has the original clutch at about 110,000 miles. Stability is a non-issue if the hitch is set up right, and I do not use a Hensley or equivalent. Power is adequate; I simply need to be patient at times, but on level highways I set the cruise control at 65 mph (in fourth gear).

The V70 3.2 would have plenty of power. Your trailer is heavier than mine, but there would still be a good margin. You will need to pay attention to loading of the car, but Volvos typically have higher than average payload capacities. Stability would be fine; personally, I'd start with a conventional hitch but if you want to use a Hensley, great.

The six-speed automatic is an unknown for me, but I believe that cooling is everything. Investigate installing an auxliary transmission cooler. Having said that, Volvo seems to have addressed many of its reliability issues in recent years, and the current models seem to be very good.

Finally, Volvo seems to be the only manufacturer that actively tests its cars in towing situations, and works to design towing capability into them.
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Old 11-11-2010, 12:56 PM   #7
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Ya know, if someone suggested towing such an Airstream with, let's say a Chevy Colorado (simular sized/powered vehicle), everyone on here would scream it would not work, would not be safe, etc.

But let it be a Volvo......
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Old 11-11-2010, 02:12 PM   #8
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Andy Thompson of CANAM RV says this will work fine. It needs to have some undercarriage work to set it up for a Hensley, but he feels it will be totally adequate, even though it isn't rated for this weight.

He tows with a Jaguar, and drove a VW Jetta Diesel towing a 25' to Alumapalooza this spring. He seems to know this engineering space.
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Thanks,
Can Am says it will be great. I plan to have them set it up for me unless I am convinced it truely is crazy.....
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what happened to the s'burb with a 4.10 rear end from last year ?

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f463...cle-57682.html

trying to match a trailer of that size to a small station wagon is silly.

the 28 and haha will more than double the payload and towing capacity.

and grossly violate every other sensible towing metric.

will this make for safe, relaxed, confident towing ?

or is this just pre-winter dreaming...

drag u'self back to your older perfect tow thread and REread the real life options for a 28.

cheers
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We have been studying this issue and went to Alumapalooza in the spring. Andy Thompson of CanAm RV was there and did a whole show on tow vehicles that was very convincing, backed up by a lot of experience and personal use. He drove a diesel VW Jetta towing a 25' Airstream and his usual tow vehicle is a Jaguar. He has written many articles for Airstream Life on the subject and says the tow ratings don't tell the true capacity, that other engineering factors are more important. The advantage of not having to use a truck are compelling to us as we have a garage in a building that has a bit less than 6' of headroom.
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Before you do it, do yourself a favor...load about 1000 pounds of stuff in the back seat of your Volvo, and then drive it and imagine towing another 7000 pounds behind it.
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The V70 3.2 is on my list of potential tow vehicles next time around. I presently tow our Overlander with a 2001 S60 - no turbo, manual transmission. I've towed nearly 20,000 miles in the last four years, and despite the clutch slip needed to get 9,500 to 10,000 lbs combined weight going on a grade, the car still has the original clutch at about 110,000 miles. Stability is a non-issue if the hitch is set up right, and I do not use a Hensley or equivalent. Power is adequate; I simply need to be patient at times, but on level highways I set the cruise control at 65 mph (in fourth gear).

The V70 3.2 would have plenty of power. Your trailer is heavier than mine, but there would still be a good margin. You will need to pay attention to loading of the car, but Volvos typically have higher than average payload capacities. Stability would be fine; personally, I'd start with a conventional hitch but if you want to use a Hensley, great.

The six-speed automatic is an unknown for me, but I believe that cooling is everything. Investigate installing an auxliary transmission cooler. Having said that, Volvo seems to have addressed many of its reliability issues in recent years, and the current models seem to be very good.

Finally, Volvo seems to be the only manufacturer that actively tests its cars in towing situations, and works to design towing capability into them.
Glad to hear this. As you can see from others who have responded, most think this is a big mistake. We are going on the recommendation of Andy Thompson who owns CanAm RV in Ontario who believes the solution is how you engineer the car's towing system to distribute the load, etc. He uses Jettas and Jaguars for towing. We are just beginning to gwet into trailers and don't want to make too many big mistakes.
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You will find out soon enough if the tranny can take it. As a former manager of a Volvo Dealership, I wish you the best. If it works for you there are loads of nice used Volvos out there ready for a whole new use.
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My wife has a Volvo wagon and I would NOT feel at all comfortable towing something as large & heavy as a 28' International behind it. Overall, the wagon is lightweight, seriously under-rated for this trailer and short-wheelbased - all things you don't want in a tow vehicle for a large trailer. Towing is more than just having enough horsepower & torque. Imagine yourself taking evasive action to avoid a head-on collision... if you are lucky enough to avoid the oncoming vehicle, you might still get yourself killed when "the mouse finds it can't control the little red wagon"!

Our Ford F-150 extended cab with the small 4.6 litre V8 is barely adequate for towing our '77 25' Tradewind (~4600 lbs., and truck is rated for 6600 lbs. towing) into headwinds and up steep grades, but I like the weight & wheelbase as winds and sudden manoevers to avoid wildlife, etc. don't toss it around uncomfortably...

Just my humble opinion - don't even think about matching your Volvo wagon to your trailer, and seriously beware anyone who says "no problem".
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