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Old 12-17-2010, 10:08 PM   #99
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Thank you Tim. I am proud as a peacock mother hen and look forward to help from you guys/gals as it is all new to me. That's why I am here and did not mean to be cocky {hence peacock} lol, only wished to share the what/how of making an old truck towable. I will rely on you guys and gals in the coming months to set her up safely and how to enjoy the friendships developed and how to fix an AS as well as the TV. Grateful to be here and earn my wings, as you have.
Those wings rusted away a long time before I ever earned them. "Real metal". You know what I mean.
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Old 12-17-2010, 10:11 PM   #100
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WOW Mr. Foster. That's what I am talking about. Beautiful. The Chevy is a Heart Beat but that Buick. I am humbled. thanks.
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Tim, We will be friends, I can tell.
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Old 12-17-2010, 10:44 PM   #102
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Welcome to the Forum Rfeldes. Sounds like you have quite the truck. You will find that there are a LOT of vintage TV's in the Airstream and vintage trailer environment. Actually, it was very pleasantly surprising for us to discover so many like minded people. And folks like Jim Foster really put theirs to the test year after year.

You may also want to check out the Tin Can Tourists events, and their website. You'll find a lot of vintage tow vehicles towing vintage trailers there as well. And a larger percentage of any vintage trailer meet we attend is the Airstream community. Tons of them. And no two identical. Life is very good.

Glad you found the forum. Post lots of pics of your set up. We love pictures.
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Old 12-18-2010, 10:54 AM   #103
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Jim,

Wow, fantastic! You have done a great job on your "old" cars. Did you do frame-off?

Our cars are street rods. I doubt we could tow anything with them, although in our 1936 Ford Fordor Sedan, we have a LT1 350 Chevy with a 4L60E transmission, a 9" Ford rear end and Mustang II front suspension with coil overs. We have a great time going to rod runs, car shows across the country, and just cruising with friends.

We are, however, working on a 1940 Ford panel truck which we are tossing around using to tow a small trailer, 19' or so; we'd probably have to change out the rear end though. We have been building it with the intention of my using it to deliver finished goods in for my business -- custom home furnishings. The back sides of the panel truck will be ideal for having the company name, phone number, etc. on it, and it will get plenty of attention! Great advertising.

Looking forward to meeting you and your wife at a rally and talking "old cars" in addition to As's!

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Old 12-18-2010, 11:41 AM   #104
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Deb, and others who are interested

Both cars were in very good condition before starting on them, neither needed to be removed from the frame. I learned a long time ago, that when building a "driver", not to remove the body from the frame if it is not necessary. Requires too much re-alignment of doors, trunk lids and other panels. Front clips (hood, front fenders and grill assemblies) can usually be removed as a unit, as that is the way they were assembled. Replace body insulator/pads one by one as needed. If there is rust or other issues, then total dis-assembly is necessary.

The Chevy had been undercoated when new, and when scrapping the coating from the frame to attach/weld in an area, I found shinny black paint, no rust at all.

The Buick had not been undercoated, but a wire brush and some black POR 15 did a very nice job on the frame.

Both cars have late Chevy front clip/frames, including suspension, grafted in such a manner that they look like they came that way.

I did everything on both cars myself in my garage, except sewing the headliner and seats, and I borrow a booth to shoot the paint.

I have a friend with a '37 Ford Cabrio, all steel Street Rod, who has towed a Bambi many miles. Another friend has a '42 Ford four door sedan Street Rod also set up for towing.

Great care must be taken when designing/fabricating the hitch receiver, especially if a weight distribution hitch is to be used. The up-side is that most of these old cars have pretty good frames. The one on the Chevy came boxed from the factory, and the frame on the Buick has an "X", like on convertibles. Both super strong.
For suspension modifications, you have an almost unlimited number of options.

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King O D Road here on the forums tows a '65 Caravel with his '33 Plymouth 5 window coupe. The combination works perfect. We tow with many who use vintage cars/hot rods to tow vintage'ish RV's of all brands.

That '36 sounds very nice. Got any pictures to post?
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i also own a 55 first series chevy pickup. Completely redone. S10 chassis, air ride, q10 shocks, fully built 327, 700r4, 4x4 s10 rear, boxed frame, built to take a beating.

I plan to build the COE as well. Thinking of doing a diesel swap, chevy 3500 dually frame. Thoughts?
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Old 12-19-2010, 08:38 PM   #107
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Safari57, about the '36, thanks it took several years to get it done. My DH used to be a welder by trade, and beefed up the frame, etc. himself.

We do have some pics; I'll have to read here on the forum just how to load one or two.

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Well, let's see if I can get this right..................

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Okay, I guess I did something wrong. I went to "Manage Attachments", then browsed our "pictures" file and chose the two I wanted to download, then "uploaded", then "closed window", but nothing showed up.

I'll try again.

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Okay, I guess I did something wrong. I went to "Manage Attachments", then browsed our "pictures" file and chose the two I wanted to download, then "uploaded", then "closed window", but nothing showed up.

I'll try again.

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Gorgeous car, Deb. One of my buddies has a blue 35 Fordor he's hotrodded. He often tows a 17' SOB with it. He's put thousands of miles on it towing that trailer and it is no lighter than a Caravel or Bambi.

This is the only pic I could easily find of it. I'll find another and post it later. The other car behind ours is a 35 Hudson five window coupe.
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Hi Barry.

Your friend's car looks great. Is that a "Cassita" that he has? (I think they are figerglass, is that right? If so, that would be a big plus on keeping it light.) I keep thinking that a "Canned Ham" would look cute being towed by our panel truck.

When we went out to the NSRA show in Pueblo, CO, June, 2008, we lost the third member in our rear end just outside of Sante Fe, NM, but were able to limp in. There we looked through our "Fellow Pages", for NSRA members, and found a name and number of a local NSRA member who put us in contact with a great repair shop in Sante Fe. They kept our car over night and we picked it up the next afternoon -- they were a super shop and got us right in and out since they knew we had come out there for the car show that was due to start in a few days. They did wonderful work. We submitted an article to the "Street Scene" magazine (NSRA) and gave the fellow member and the repair shop credit for helping us out.

I'll pass along some info which we learned the hard way, but may help someone else out before they do the same thing. What made our third member fail was that we had not only switched our engine oil over to synthetic, but also our gear oil (I think that's what it's called). We found out that our rear end was too old to handle the synthetic. They fixed the third member out there, we came home, made trips to Knoxville, TN; Louisville, KY to the Nats.; Burlington, VT, and many other rod runs and have not had another problem with it. We did hear a humming noise which my DH just thought was annoying, so we changed out the gear and it's quiet as can be now.

Thanks again for the compliment on our car -- we have a part of ourselves in it.

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Barry,

I just reread your post and realized that you own that fabulous car towing the AS! All I can say is wow! Great job on your car too.

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