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Old 08-22-2014, 08:09 AM   #155
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Here is an interesting thread from someone towing very heavy with a RAM EcoDIESEL.
1500 Support Vehicle. The Tow, Go, Ecomodder, and Daily Driver - Page 2
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Here is an interesting thread from someone towing very heavy with a RAM EcoDIESEL.
1500 Support Vehicle. The Tow, Go, Ecomodder, and Daily Driver - Page 2
read the report previously in the Ram forum, indeed our diesel runs quite hot when it gets pushed to the extreme, but overall it gets the job done, albeit that it has to work extra hard because of the grade in the grapevine. This report has alot to say about running real hot.
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Old 09-02-2014, 09:39 AM   #157
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There is a temperature necessary for volumetric efficiency in an engine. Higher than that is not beneficial. With the oil and transmission fluid temperatures as high as shown in that truck report in post #155, one might need to consider much shorter oil change intervals as oil will break down quicker at high temperatures.

With these very high temperatures under heavy load, it might be very beneficial to have an EGT installed to verify the turbocharger does not exceed 1,250 degrees in inlet temps as above 1,300, high heat can cause failure.

I would also install a cool down system that will keep the engine idling, even after the ignition switch is removed, until the EGT gets under 380 degrees (or whatever temperature one selects). Heat soak will coke up the turbo bearings.

I installed the Edge Insight gage system on the Dodge door post using the Edge color matched fairing and it digitally displays EGT (exhaust gas temperature), inches of boost, fuel rail pressure, transmission oil temperature and read differential oil temperature all in one 3 x 4 gage. It will also generate audible warning alarms at user settings like coolant temperature or what ever. It also handles the cool down process.

I am not any representative for Edge, I just use their product. However, our family brought turbochargers to the states and built them for all engine manufactures in sizes under two inches (Mitsubushi gas four cylinder in the Dodge Caravans) to six inches for the Continental M60 tank engines and large Euclid earth movers) and a few special "one of" models for the Offenhauser engine at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.
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The tc will lock up all the way down to 2nd gear but the really cool deal is that the PCM can also do partial lock up. The tc has a multi disc clutch pack
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I use an independent shop where they specialize in the Dodge diesels. The owner and his son both have Dodge trucks and their staff of 16 top tier trained mechanics can do modifications and support to these Cummins engines.
16 diesel techs in one independent shop. Where is that? Not Apache junction right
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It is on the West side of Tempe near I-10 on Warner.

Send me a PM if you want the shop name.
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Transmission operating temps

Some words on 8HP70 transmission temps from ZF.

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I pinged ZF yesterday regarding the operating temps of the Lifeguard 8 fluid within the 8hp transmission. Here was the response:

"Hello Scott,

The typical operating temp is 80-100 C. If the temperature reaches 120+ the transmission is in danger of overheating and module failure.

Kind regards,
Joe Laubinger
ZF Services, LLC."

I will do the translation for you . 80 C = 176 F, 100C = 212 F, 120 C = 248 F. So normal operating range is between 176F & 212F according to ZF. Good information to know.
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2015 Winner RAM 3.0L EcoDiesel

The best engine of 2015 according to Wards Auto
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Hi, I wouldn't consider going 25 MPH with the air conditioner turning its self off and turning on the heater a success. Obviously towing too much.
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Hi, once again, not impressed. Good engine maybe, but not because it costs less than an already expensive BMW X-5d. Not because it is quieter than another diesel in an empty cargo van. And finally, not because it gets better fuel mileage than a tiny 2.7 L gas engine that can easily kick it's @$$.


I used to call this Rambler advertising: Ramblers were better because they had a larger glove box, more ash trays, and cost less to fill the smaller gas tank. These were all true advantages but for most people meaningless.


I'm not knocking the Ecodiesel, but rather the stupid comparisons.
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Sour grapes a bit, Bob?
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Hi, TOP, not at all. But you have to admit these comparisons to make the Ram diesel look good were stupid. Best engine, should be for reasons like most powerful for it's size, best on fuel consumption on an engine dyno, best in durability in how long this engine will last in the real World. Basically, the best engine should be about the engine, and only the engine, not the vehicle that it is installed in. [not vehicle cost, vehicle noise, and fuel mileage unless comparing it to another diesel on a dyno]


I also think that Ford should admit that the 2015 F-150 isn't only lighter because of the aluminum body, but also because of the new smaller, lighter engine in it. [Sour grapes, No]
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Maybe this will cheer you up.
If that doesn't, this surely will make your chest swell with pride! That is, if you drive the Fiesta


I looked for a link on Wards where you could submit your resume', but couldn't find it, so I guess you'll just have to start your own automotive magazine, Bob.

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Maybe this will cheer you up.
If that doesn't, this surely will make your chest swell with pride! That is, if you drive the Fiesta


I looked for a link on Wards where you could submit your resume', but couldn't find it, so I guess you'll just have to start your own automotive magazine, Bob.

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Hi, TOP; Sorry but Wards butchered the Ford as much as they butchered the Dodge. Now they say [back pedaling] that the Ford 5 cylinder diesel is actually quiet inside of an empty van and shouldn't have been compared noise wise with a full dressed Dodge pickup. [not an exact quote but close enough] I would not look any further to Wards for a decent report on ENGINES.

With several prior years of working on motor vehicles, I eventually started as a dealership mechanic in 1968. I retired from working at a new car dealer in 2008 and I'm done. So there won't be a "ROBERTSUNRUS AUTOWORLD"
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