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Old 07-16-2006, 02:32 AM   #15
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I read the Edmunds article and found that it, along with some of your suggestions, may sway my decision. I still think the Chevy is ugly but the GMC still looks fine.

Other than the exterior styling, are there any differences between the Chevy and GMC?

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Old 07-16-2006, 05:43 AM   #16
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don't discount the chevys just yet.

you may want to consider a pre duramax 6.5 turbo. i have one, (1997) as a second truck and have retired it to snow plowing duty.

the only reason i don't use it more for towing is because i have a '00 silverado (gas).

over the years it has been an excellent tow vehicle with plenty of power and a rugged transmission. in fact it uses the same tranny as my '00, the 4L80E.

the only significant problem i have had was the pump mounted injection driver. it went out at 70,000 miles. it was covered by warrenty.

so in the end i have a reliable tow vehicle as a back up, and one heck of a plow truck!


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Old 07-16-2006, 08:35 AM   #17
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I wouldn't touch a 6.0 Ford, they claim it is fixed then why are they comming out with a new diesel. I know people in the diesel repair industry and last I heard there are 28 pages of TSB's on the 6.0. Go with GM or Dodge.
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Old 07-16-2006, 11:18 AM   #18
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Originally Posted by Asianflava

Other than the exterior styling, are there any differences between the Chevy and GMC?
Smokey Yunick used to say that the GMC was the only truck designed by two sets of engineers - Chevrolet designed the truck and GMC designed the emblems. He had that in the paper when he was closing out his GMC dealership in Daytona.

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Old 07-16-2006, 03:29 PM   #19
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Hello eveyone,

Back in the day the GMC was the heavy duty choice ,I own a 50 chevy cabover engine truck I use for my repair service .It originaly had a 6 cylinder 235 high pressure oiling engine .The cab over engine GMC however used a
261 heavy duty truck engine 6 cylinder ,much beefier as the 235 came in the cars but were mostley low pressure oiling engines ,so then the difference was big ,today its the badging thats different really.

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Old 07-16-2006, 03:46 PM   #20
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For what its worth, Dodge is offering some awesome deals right now. They have this "employee pricing" thing going with zero percent financing. It saves a bundle. My buddy just bought a hemi powered half ton truck and saved $7K off the asking price.

The company I used to work for bought it's fleet off Chrysler, and I got that discount plus the Dodge Days discount when I bought my Cummins. I saved over $8K that way, but I didn't get zero percent financing.

Everybody I know that's ever had a Cummins powered Dodge has basically just poured fuel in it and gone. I know guys with 300,000 miles on them and the engines never fail. None of the guys I know have had tranny problems either. One guy shredded the rear end, but that was fixed easily enough.

I've had mine for just under two years now, and I have done absolutely nothing to it other than change the oil Just put the key in and go. It pulls my '77 31 footer like it's not even back there.

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Old 07-16-2006, 03:55 PM   #21
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Hey Jim Golden ,

You are right on about the dodge ,ny good friend bought a 5 speed 2004
I think ,real quiet indide and runs like a champ ,very powerful and good mileage.Any news on the aluminum frame idea from a while back?

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Old 07-16-2006, 04:11 PM   #22
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GM has gone back to drums

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....and disc brakes on the rear.
The discs on the back of my GM and have replaced the rear pads twice in 60,000 miles, the front are still good. The newer models have gone back to drums. The problem is the rear discs get covered in road, you name it, grit, mud, road sand. Toyota has rear drums as well.

Wishing I could get a used 5 cylinder diesel in a rig to plow the driveway and pull 6,000lbs.

Until then the 4.8 Sierra will have to due.

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Old 07-16-2006, 04:11 PM   #23
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Sometimes the badging is different, sometimes it not!
After looking for the right model and configuration for our tow vehicle, we finally opted to just order it from the Chevrolet dealer.
When it came in, everything looked great, including the GMC steering wheel!

Even with its 'dual personality,' it been a great performer.
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Old 08-14-2006, 09:16 PM   #24
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After a bunch of research I ended up with a 5.9 cummins in my 2001 dodge pu and I also have a 12v in my 93 Dp MH. If you ever look at the pistons and cranks in the cummins and the power stroke or duramax the story will become clear. If you are going to tow by all means go to the cummins. This is a 500,000 mile motor if taking some care and proper maintanance is done. As stated the 12v pre 98.5 is a mechanical mtr. and will be easy to do a pump or injector upgrade and get the H.P up over 300 pretty easy. Also as mentioned the KDP fix needs to be done about a 4 hr job even for a novice. If going to a newer (I think prior to 2002) you need to watch for the dreaded 53 block where there were some cracking problems. the 47re trans has been the snafu of the dodge powertrain. Chevy had the right idea when thy coupled with the allison tranny. There are many fixes for the Dodge tranny and you might want to add a couple thousand to your cost to get the tranny upgraded.(less if you do not plan on making many mods) Remember that a Cummins is a commercial duty in line 6 mtr. a little (no alot) more noisey in the 12V but the rattle is fun. The gas mtr will not last if you are towing with it 100,000 about all you can expect, but to give it its due a rebuild is not all that expensive and will give you another 75-100,000 If you tow on hills you can expect the cummins to be doing about the same speed at the top as at the bottom, the gas will struggle with it.(depending on Load). anyhow getting too long winded here so I'll be quiet. Hope this helps.
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Old 08-15-2006, 06:46 AM   #25
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Originally Posted by specauto
I've never owned one of these because Chevrolet never put it in the 3500HD's. With an Allsion transmission, this may be a great combo
GM has offered the 3500 series with a Duramax/Allision combo for several years. I took a hard look at one in 2004.

A 3500 would tow a 31' Airstream just fine, but so would a 2500. I think the 3500 would be too harsh and stiff of a ride for any towable Airstream out there, with the exception of the squarestream 5th wheel.
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I drive a diesel MH and can sneak into and out of campgrounds but when a little 'ole Dodge pick up with that Cummins starts up anywhere in a campground the ground shakes. What does is sound like inside the cab?
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Old 08-15-2006, 10:50 AM   #28
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Originally Posted by Chaplain Kent
I drive a diesel MH and can sneak into and out of campgrounds but when a little 'ole Dodge pick up with that Cummins starts up anywhere in a campground the ground shakes. What does is sound like inside the cab?
It's quieter inside than out, a good thing.

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