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Old 02-09-2015, 10:15 PM   #1
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Tundras and off road packages

I am looking at a Toyota tundra to pull my new 25" FB Flying Cloud. The truck will be my only vehicle. It seems to add more weight and make for a rougher ride. Any experience out there? So many of the used ones have the TRD package....
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Old 02-09-2015, 10:39 PM   #2
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I have a 2008 Tundra with the TRD package and tow a 25 FB. It is a great combination. I ordered the TRD mainly to get better shocks. It originally came with passenger radials and I never felt that the ride was tough or stiff in any way. When I changed over to LT tires I did notice a difference.

I can't remember what else came with the TRD package but was told it did help with trailer towing. Love my Tundra.
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Old 02-09-2015, 10:43 PM   #3
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If you want a bunch of info on Tundras check out TundraTalk.net - Toyota Tundra Discussion Forum
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Old 02-10-2015, 12:18 AM   #4
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We got a Tundra a few months ago, having decided we wanted a V8 engine. We got the crew cab, which is so comfortable that we like it a lot. The trailer seems to tow a lot easier, as well, than our first Bambi did with a Toyota Tacoma, even though the 16-footer was 1000 lbs lighter than the 19-footer.

We're a one-vehicle household as well. Out here, a Tundra is considered to be a small truck. We bundle our trips, and our driving is mostly highway driving.
But we use 4wd all the time to get up and down our driveway; and sometimes in remote camping situations with interesting roads to explore.


In terms of camping, the main thing was getting a cap (canopy) for the truck, so that we have a lot of storage space for camping gear.
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Old 02-10-2015, 12:33 AM   #5
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Here's our Tundra with the ARE cap.

The Dark gray Tundra (above) hooked to our 25' Tradewind is the one we used on the test drive.
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Old 02-10-2015, 07:26 AM   #6
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I recently purchased a new 2015 Tundra 1794 4x4.
Will pick up a 2012 Airstream 19' tomorrow that I've purchased.
Curious to what I can expect for MPG on the rig.
Majority of our travels will be New England down to FL and over to the Rocky's.

Also, anyone else towing with this combo - I'd like to hear if you went with the Hensley Cub hitch configuration and what your results have been. Chap I'm buying the 19' from says they use nothing other than a straight hook up between their truck and the trailer.
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Old 02-10-2015, 08:38 AM   #7
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On a recent trip up to northern Oregon pulling our 13' 2500# Casita the our Tundra 2wd didn't know it was there milage only dropped 1 mpg from 16 mpg when not towing.

I would guess your mpg will drop 2-3 mpg on the coast and 3-5 in the rockies with your 19'.

But your Tundra will hardly notice the 19'.

Be sure to check out http://www.tundratalk.net/forums
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Old 02-10-2015, 08:53 AM   #8
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You would need to attach the trailer with your truck bed loaded with anything you plan to take on trips and see how much the rear end squats and the front end raises. You don't want your headlights blaring out into oncoming traffic and you don't want the steering to feel light. You'll probably have close to 650lbs of hitch weight. If you measure the fenders to the ground through the center line of the wheels before and after attaching the trailer you'll be able to determine if you need a WDH. If the measurement is the same on all four wheels you can probably get away without a WDH. If the front is a little high then something like an Anderson WDH would probably provide enough weight distribution and sway control. If you can tow without a WDH I would get a friction anti-sway bar installed to be on the safe side.

Another solution if the rear sags a little but not too much to warrant a WDH is to add air bags under the rear suspension and a friction sway bar.

I towed a 17' Casita (3500lbs) single axle with a 2005 4Runner 4.7l 2wd and it had 430lbs on the hitch without WDH but used an friction sway bar and never had sway issues. Now with my heavy 25fb Classic I have a 2010 Tundra and Equalizer WDH.

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Old 02-10-2015, 09:01 AM   #9
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Thanks to Glen/Rita and Kelvin for your comments.
The mileage that Glen/Rita suggested would be nice to see. Better than I put into my spreadsheet/trip expense planner.

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Tundras and off road packages

Usually what makes a great off road truck makes for a lousy tow vehicle. Especially a soft suspension. Nothing a leaf spring kit or a bump stop upgrade can't correct. But then off-roading after the upgrade may be unpleasant.
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Deduct 30-40% from highway mpg at same speed.
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I forgot to include my mileage figures for towing my 2008 Classic 25fb with my 2010 Tundra 2wd Double Cab 5.7L. I've seen as low as 10mpg on short weekend trips over hilly terrain and the best leg of a long trip on level interstate I got 12.9mpg. This is hand calculated and trying to average 60mph. I have a useable range of 225 miles to 250 miles with a safe 3 gal reserve.

I've achieved a best 19mpg solo, hand calculated, driving from DFW to Springfield at speed limits.

4x4 will drop your mpg a little. My Tundra is an SR5 which doesn't have all the options of a 1794.

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I forgot to include my mileage figures for towing my 2008 Classic 25fb with my 2010 Tundra 2wd Double Cab 5.7L. I've seen as low as 10mpg on short weekend trips over hilly terrain and the best leg of a long trip on level interstate I got 12.9mpg. This is hand calculated and trying to average 60mph. I have a useable range of 225 miles to 250 miles with a safe 3 gal reserve.

I've achieved a best 19mpg solo, hand calculated, driving from DFW to Springfield at speed limits.

4x4 will drop your mpg a little. My Tundra is an SR5 which doesn't have all the options of a 1794.

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That is spot on. We get the same with our 1969 25' Tradewind and our '98 Tahoe 2dr 2wd and 2014 Tundra SR5 double cab 2wd.
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I get between 10.5 and 13.6 towing our 30 classic. It depends of how aggressively I drive. If I stick to the 55-60 mph, I get good mileage. I have the Crew Max TR5 and it came with the bigger mirrors, tow haul and all 5 windows are power. I have a tonneau cover on the back but wish I had the cap ($1800.00 locally). Love my truck and love that it tows Belle with ease.
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