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Old 05-26-2016, 05:21 PM   #29
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Built just like every other truck except the Honda Ridgeline-


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built just like every other truck except the honda ridgeline-
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Old 05-26-2016, 08:07 PM   #31
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I have had 4 4rnrs since 1993 and just bought a 2010 5.7 Tundra double cab limited with tow package in oct/15 ... it had 125,000km (about 80,000mi) ...in Nov/15 i pulled my 23ft down from Victoria BC thru Calf into Arizona stored the trailer for 5 months and then drove into mexico ...picked up the trailer last month and came home from Ariz thru the canyons of S Utah ...Salt Lake...Boise...Portland and home last week. I haven't done the math yet on my mileage back but averaged 22ltr per 100km (10.7MPG) on the way down to AZ in Nov... the truck hardly noticed the trailer as far as pulling was concerned. I cruised the interstates at 60-65mph and could have easily gone faster. It is also the most comfortable truck Ive rode in. Transmission temp never moved. Very happy with it and Toyota in general (yesterday bought my wife a new Toyota Yaris to bomb around town!!)
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Old 05-26-2016, 08:10 PM   #32
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My Mileage was calculated the old school way as I am not that impressed with the onboard computer calculations on the Tundra ...doesnt seem to be as accurate as my last 4RNR was but its a small complaint!
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Have you seen the 2017 Ridgeline?
It is awesome!


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The Tundra really does ride and handle like a very large Camry, though.


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I know Toyotas are great and all - I've had more than a few - but two things keep me from wanting a Tundra -

Seems like they get pretty poor gas mileage.

They're kind of an old school design - body on frame, solid rear axle, really heavy so they need a big thirsty V8 just to break even.
Totally agree! I believe the gas mileage is among the worst of the trucks. Oh well.
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Old 05-27-2016, 07:57 AM   #36
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Yep, my gas mileage could be better, but it only takes one $2,500 repair to pay for a lot of gas. No complaints on the ride. I have the 20" wheels with michlins. Rides nice with or without the trailer. I went with double cab and 6.5' bed, so I can haul motorcycle. (Haven't had the bike in the back, while pulling the trailer yet, but it'll happen one of these days. (650cc dual sport bike.)
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Old 05-27-2016, 12:06 PM   #37
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To the fuel economy issue:
I have the truck.
It is paid for.
How much would I spend for a more fuel efficient truck? $25,000? $30,000? $35,000? More?
How much fuel at 13 mpg towing and 15 mpg empty could I buy for $25,000? How many years would it take to get my money back? How many miles would it take to get my money back?
It's cheaper to keep her.
I'll just keep feeding my gas hog.
$200 per month fuel expense or a $600 payment to get a $180 fuel bill? Hmm...
That is just the beginning. Insurance and registration and personal property tax on the newer, more fuel efficient truck is higher, too.
So, economically speaking, it is much less expensive to continue driving my fuel-sucking paid-for truck.
Also, there are other trade-offs.
Part of the poor fuel economy is the 4:30 rear end gears, which is also the reason for the extreme power the Tundra has. There are trade-offs. Power or fuel economy. You can't have both. Do I need 381 horsepower and 401 ft. lbs. of torque? No, but do I want 381 horsepower and 401 ft. lbs. of torque?
I think it would be silly to trade to go from 15 mpg to 17 mpg.
Whose truck does better than 12 mpg towing anyway?
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Rather than highjacking this thread, we should start a new one on fuel mileage.
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Old 05-27-2016, 12:13 PM   #39
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Not really.
Just modify by saying the Tundra is a roomy, stylish, good handling, dependable/reliable, powerful truck that gets bead mileage.
How much more would the more fuel efficient truck cost me in maintenance?
The Tundra maintenance has been a set of tires, a battery, 2 cabin filters, and a bunch of oil changes and tire rotations.
I think overall cost of owning/operating may actually be less than a more fuel efficient truck.
Will a Honda Ridgeline pull my 30' Airstream?
If I thought it would, I would definitely be game. The 2017 Ridgeline is awesome.
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It's true that it doesn't add up to all that much money.

10,000 miles @ 10 MPG @ $2.50 = $2,500
10,000 miles @ 15 MPG @ $2.50 = $1,667

So a 50% improvement in MPG saves $833.
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Who's getting 10 mpg? Towing or empty?
If you get as low as 10 mpg towing, something just ain't right or you are driving too fast.
If you get as much as 15 mpg towing, you have a miracle machine.
I don't think anyone towing a 30' Airstream will see much more than 13 regardless of tow vehicle.
I don't think anyone towing a 30" Airstream with a modern pickup is getting as little as 10.
The comparison needs to be done between the known 15 mpg my Tundra gets and the 17 or 19 other pickups get.
I average 6,000 miles per year.
So, in reality, my sucky fuel economy costs me roughly $400 per year.
It would take me roughly 87 1/2 years to see a savings after spending $35,000 for a more fuel efficient truck.
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Yeah the math on buying a diesel upgrade over gas doesn't pencil out for many many years.
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