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Old 02-10-2007, 09:30 PM   #15
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Well markdoane ,not quite , the 4.7 uses a 9.5 ring gear and the 5,7
uses the 10 .5 gear very good size .The rotors are 13" diameter + so very good on the brakes .In your video ,you tube ,the guys holding up an 8 "
ring gear( the smaller one).I imagine its a stock toyota pickup ring gear ,have you seen the one ton toyota pickup dually ring gear ? thats the size ,the small one .The Dana 60 has a 9 3/4 ring gear and the 70 has
a 10.5 ring gear,so the 60 ring gear is larger and stronger than the toyota 9.5 and the 70 is the same size .The toyota is offering some heavier drivetrain parts there.

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Old 04-04-2007, 09:06 AM   #16
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Now that a few members have bought 07 Tundra's, I have a question. Is the connection for the brake controller the same as my 03 Tundra? I would like to put the Prodigy I now have in my 03 into the 07 when I buy it....
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Old 04-04-2007, 10:59 AM   #17
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, if I owned a smaller AS it would be in my garage.

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Uh, well , have you been outside lately, looked at a tape measure; John You DO own a small Airstream, (devil made me do it) see you in a few weeks! Tim
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Old 04-04-2007, 11:21 AM   #18
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Have you seen the latest commercial, where they load 2000 pounds of manure into the bed?
We call 2000 pounds of crap in a 1000 pound bag a "blivet", hope they don't change the name of the truck.
"The all-new Toyota Blivet"...
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Old 04-04-2007, 11:37 AM   #19
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, if I owned a smaller AS it would be in my garage.

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Uh, well , have you been outside lately, looked at a tape measure; John You DO own a small Airstream, (devil made me do it) see you in a few weeks! Tim
DG..

First of all, you shouldn't blame you actions on Kevbo, second, I don't need no tape measure to know that I could park two 25' Safaris in the hanger you call an Airstream (rumor has it that the thing is so big that you even have an embedded journalist inside covering the rally), but that doesnt make my Airstream small, it just means that yours is bigger. Size is a matter of opinion, and so far, besides you, no one has said that mine is small, after all, it is a wide body.

We can settle this at Casini at the Fire Dancer (with wine).

Now to keep this from being a hijack.......since I posted last on this thread, one of our members bought a 07 Tundra with the 5.7 and is successfully towing their Safari 25FB, at 7300lbs, that is a fairly hefty tow according to most on the forum. The Tundra may be the exception to the concern of towing a 25' or larger with anything less than a 3/4 ton.

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Old 04-09-2007, 07:54 AM   #20
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one of our members bought a 07 Tundra with the 5.7 and is successfully towing their Safari 25FB, at 7300lbs, that is a fairly hefty tow according to most on the forum. The Tundra may be the exception to the concern of towing a 25' or larger with anything less than a 3/4 ton.

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Read the Motor Trend comparo of the new Silverado versus the Toyota this weekend. One thing I was very surprised to learn, and have not seen it discussed yet; the very low payload capacity of the Toyota. I would have thought we would not have seen that again after the Nissan debacle, good towing capacity severely limited by lack of payload. The Chevy was listed at ~1600#, the Toyota at only ~1100#. If I were to drop my Excella on the hitch of that Toyota and jump in the cab, I would be all done. I would have to leave the Wife, Kids, bikes, firewood, etc home. This lack of payload really hurt the Nissan in towing as other members on this board found out. Too bad, I am sure it is a nice enough truck but if you want to play in the serious towing game, you need payload in addition to tow capacity. This lack of payload will definitely limit you to towing no more than a 23’er. Even that won’t leave much room for “stuff,” maybe 300# or so at 15% tongue weight...
Anyone considering one of these truck should pay attention and scrutinize how you will load your truck in real world conditions.
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Old 04-09-2007, 08:52 AM   #21
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If you go to the Toyota website you will see that the numbers do not match what MT used. The payload for a 4X2 double cab std bed is 1680 lbs. This is slightly more then the numbers posted for the Silverado.
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Old 04-11-2007, 03:41 AM   #22
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I'm on the fence deciding on a new truck. I can't decide between the 2007 Tundra CrewMax or a left over 2006 Dodge MegaCab Diesel. Even though it's a 2006, it will still be about 5K more. I don't have an AS yet so I probably won't be towing heavy loads for a while.

The AS that we have our sights set on is a 28ft SE for one simple reason, It has to have a bed that is at least as big as the one in our teardrop, which is a queen sized bed. Besides I looked at the weight and there is no weight difference between the 25' and 28' trailers (huh?) for a new model.

All the articles I've read say that the Tundra is very capable. 7300lbs for a 28ft SE is well within the 10,400lb tow rating. Being teardroppers, we pack light so we don't bring too much stuff. We both still work so a 2 week trip is rare.
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Looking at the Safari specs page. I do see that there is less than 300# between the 28' & 25' UBW. The GVWRs are the same due to axle capacities; ie, the same axles are installed on each. Significantly the tongue weight for the 28' is 830# and for the 25' it is 720#. With weight distribution gear, LP in the tanks and a spare tire installed I can guarantee that each of these will bump up by 150-200#. The Tundra is still a 1/2 ton truck and probably has less payload capacity than a Detroit HD 1/2-tonner. Tundra specs for payload are at Toyota Tundra - Truck Specs: Auto and Engine Specifications. Subtract real hitch weight from payload capacity of the model you're looking at; this will give you the absolute remaining max load you can put onto the truck for people aboard, accessories, topper, gear in the box, etc. I would never question the Tundra for a 23' or less Airstream. The payload capacity issue causes compromises at 25' -- depends on how you want to travel. 28' is marginal IMO.

Tow capacity numbers are deceiving and do not exist by themselves. Look at all the tow vehicle specs and exceed none of them. Greatest safety is maintained when you stay 15-25% below any spec maximum.
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Old 04-11-2007, 07:50 AM   #24
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Whoa! I would not suggest hooking up a 28’er to any ½ ton; I don’t care if it is built on Krypton. This is a recipe for ditch diving. Do a search and you will find some members who were fortunate to have survived such incidents.
You may squeak by with a 25’er, but you would be doing just that; squeaking by. OK if you don’t stray far from home or very often. But you will be at the limit of any ½ ton. If you have ambitions of wandering about you really need to be looking at ¾ TV’s for a 25’ or larger. As moosetags is fond of saying “inadequate TV’s are the leading cause of very expensive yard art.”
For an idea of where I am coming from, take a read of my post; http://www.airforums.com/forum...ice-28886.html
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Old 04-15-2007, 08:36 AM   #25
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I've just bought my first travel trailer and am in the process of buying a suitable TV. I too had considered the Tundra as I have not been a big fan of the quality of the US brands. With that said, when researching the Tundra I quickly realized that once the trailer was connected I couldn't put anything in the truck! That was when my wife was looking at a new 2006 Classic 28 footer. That idea quickly went by the wayside when she found a used 34 footer.

So I'm now in search of the new 2008 F250 or F350 with the diesel engine and auto tranny. I also want to have it configured with the Tow Command option that includes the integrated brake controller. I'd be interested in those of you that have this setup how well it works.

Hopefully I'll have our new truck by this next weekend so we can pickup the new "used" rig (2000 34' Limited). Plus my Hensley hitch arrives Monday.
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A Tundra, even if rated at 7300lbs is not going to cut it as a fully loaded 28' (non vintage) is rated at 7300lbs. You still have passengers, cargo and fuel Asianflava. You will meet or exceed that Toyota spec if in fact it is 7300lbs. You are squarely in 3/4 ton country here at 28'. Yes the new Tundra is better than the old Tundra, but that won't help you much with a 28 footer.
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A Tundra, even if rated at 7300lbs is not going to cut it as a fully loaded 28' (non vintage) is rated at 7300lbs. You still have passengers, cargo and fuel Asianflava. You will meet or exceed that Toyota spec if in fact it is 7300lbs. You are squarely in 3/4 ton country here at 28'. Yes the new Tundra is better than the old Tundra, but that won't help you much with a 28 footer.
That's exactly why I'm buying a Ford F250 SD or the F350 with the diesel Powerstroke engine.
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That's exactly why I'm buying a Ford F250 SD or the F350 with the diesel Powerstroke engine.
Sounds like the smart choice. I'm happy with my '01 Chevy 2500hd with 8.1 gas/Allison auto combination hooked up to an '86 Sovereign 25'. If diesel was a little cheaper then I might be even happier with a Duramax or the '08 Ford F250 with the new 6.4 twin turbo diesel engine. Time will tell whether Navistar has a hit with this new engine.
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