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Old 03-31-2018, 07:54 PM   #1
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Truck for towing

Looking at a International Serenity 27FB. Need to know if a Ford150 3.5L EcoBoost V6 is adequate for towing.
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Old 03-31-2018, 08:04 PM   #2
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Ah, this is a contentious topic. I tow my Flying Cloud 26U with a '17 3.5 Ecoboost with the Max Tow pkg (that I ordered through Northside Ford just the way I wanted it... we're in SA as well.) I have no complaints, but we're both still working so we're not doing month-long trips carrying our anvil collection and enough cast iron to outfit a couple of cattle drives. For half-timing or full-timing I'd want an incoveniently-long bigger truck with huge payload and a tray system under a topper, but we've done 10-day trips including boondocking and mountain passes and again, I have no complaints.

Our FC scales out around 6500 lb loaded for travel (food, booze & clothes, full fresh water, empty waste tanks.) If we had a 30' trailer I might want a bigger truck, or at least a fancier hitch (I use a Blue Ox Swaypro currently.)
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We have a 2p16 27' international serenity
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First off, welcome to the Forums. We're glad to have you with us.

As to your question, it may depend on how you plan to use your Airstream. Occasional use over short distances, the answer is most likely yes. Major trip cross country, you might want a tow vehicle with more payload capacity.

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Sorry for the abbreviated reply, we love our 2017 Ford f250 diesel for towing. Never any issues here in Appalachia towing. The engine braking system is fantastic on the mountain passes and the fx4 option gives excellent ground clearance, traction in gravel and rain soaked terrain. Very plush interior and plenty space with the extended cab. We d an f150 eco boost and it was good but no engine braking and the extra diesel power and weight make all the difference.
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quick answer: i sure hope so...

...because we are taking delivery of our new-to-us 2017 Serenity 27FB in a few weeks, and the current tow vehicle plan is a 2016 F150 EB 3.5L SUpercrew 4X4. The truck was a leftover (almost a year on the lot) and has everything we wanted for towing except the tow mirrors - go figure. But as a Platinum, it is somewhat of a *pig* (can i say that?) with the yellow door sticker declaring a payload of 1,568 lbs. So, like others have said, we will leave our anvil collection at home and try this RV thing out for a few years. Calculations and the local scale indicate we have ample "room" in the Gross Vehicle Axle Weight category, assuming about 800# tongue weight and a weight distribution hitch.
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...because we are taking delivery of our new-to-us 2017 Serenity 27FB in a few weeks, and the current tow vehicle plan is a 2016 F150 EB 3.5L SUpercrew 4X4. The truck was a leftover (almost a year on the lot) and has everything we wanted for towing except the tow mirrors - go figure. But as a Platinum, it is somewhat of a *pig* (can i say that?) with the yellow door sticker declaring a payload of 1,568 lbs. So, like others have said, we will leave our anvil collection at home and try this RV thing out for a few years. Calculations and the local scale indicate we have ample "room" in the Gross Vehicle Axle Weight category, assuming about 800# tongue weight and a weight distribution hitch.
Since you already have the truck, why not just try it? All these threads run pretty much the same. None of these trucks will explode if you go over payload by a few pounds. Just make sure everything is level.

I use a bigger truck for my 27’ so can’t comment on the EB. Just get used to the acceleration with the 27’ hooked up.
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[QUOTE=pjshier;2084451]...because we are taking delivery of our new-to-us 2017 Serenity 27FB in a few weeks, and the current tow vehicle plan is a 2016 F150 EB 3.5L SUpercrew 4X4. The truck was a leftover (almost a year on the lot) and has everything we wanted for towing except the tow mirrors - go figure. But as a Platinum, it is somewhat of a *pig* (can i say that?) with the yellow door sticker declaring a payload of 1,568 lbs. So, like others have said, we will leave our anvil collection at home and try this RV thing out for a few years. Calculations and the local scale indicate we have ample "room" in the Gross Vehicle Axle Weight category, assuming about 800# tongue weight and a weight
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Thank you so much. Very informative.
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Yes, Countryboy59, plan is to use the "truck we own" for a few years of punctuated part time. It should be entirely adequate. However, i am cursed with the experience of being both a pilot and a former "ice road trucker" here in AK. Preference is not to approach the limits. But on the road with an RV and weighing less than 80,000 lbs., i can learn to relax a bit! And this truck has GREAT instrumentation!
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We have a 2015 F150 SCrew 5.5' box and the 3.5 EcoBoost engine. We now pull a 2016 Flying Cloud 26U. It weighs 6620# with 840# of that on the tongue. We previously towed an '02 30' Classic w / slide. It weighed about 8400# empty. The truck pulled either one easily. So, I don't think you will have any problems with the Serenity 27FB. FWIW, we use a 1,000# / 10,000# Equalizer hitch that I am very happy with.

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A few thoughts: 1. Define your future camping experiences. Mountains? Long trips? Lots of passengers? 2. Is fuel mileage important? 3. Do you want to get out into traffic easily? 4. What is your budget? 5. Do you have an open mind about GM, Ford, or Ram? 6. Gas or diesel? 7. Do you have a trusted mechanic nearby? 8. Is resale value important? Lots of things to consider before narrowing your choices. The folks on this forum may or may not be helpful. Always remember, the value of information is directly proportional to the $$ spent including the forgoing.
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Looking at a International Serenity 27FB. Need to know if a Ford150 3.5L EcoBoost V6 is adequate for towing.
Welcome to the forum!

Is it adequate, yes.

Can you tow with more ease and more control, yes.

You must decide on what you will use the truck for when not towing as well as how you want to tow.

Very personal choice for certain.

We decided on a Ram 2500, diesel for the payload (stuff in the truck + tongue weight) as well as the pulling power (torque). It fit what we needed.

Happy hunting!
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TW doesn’t count into payload in the real world. Only in the imaginary RV one. With a WD hitch it is divided among the TT axles and TV axles. “Payload” is pretty much all on the TV rear axle. That will be less than 40% of TW. Payload itself isn’t any way to measure the effect of TW once WD is applied. One uses axle/tire ratings.

The truck is adequate (all that can said for any pickup), as there are better TVs, by far.

Steering, braking and handling are paramount. In which pickups are worst.

TT weight is a distraction. Almost, but not quite relevant. TT design (shape and suspension) are what matter. (One can come up with a 3000-lb trailer that a semi can barely move )

TT “weight” is a problem solved by hitch rigging.

It’s frequent citation as reason to buy one version or another of a farm vehicle is simply proof of ignorance.

“Need” a pickup? The test is easy. IRS-applicable miles, job description and the type and weight of gear that CANNOT be carried in the TT or TV passenger compartment.

All miles. Not just on vacation.

Listen to the only the answers one wishes wishes to hear? That’s acceptance of worst possible road performance.

Explanations abound. As does relevant experience. Also known as common sense. This company would have failed were pickups required

Take your time.

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