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Old 06-12-2004, 07:21 AM   #15
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Anyone know if the Quad steering will become available with the 8L or Diesel GMC's?
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Old 06-12-2004, 07:41 AM   #16
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Just a thought. The towing capacity is based on only a 175# driver in the tow vehicle. Any other things you add, wife, kids, tools, food, bikes, etc. should be subtracted from tow capacity on any vehicle you choose. The Suburban has lots of room for added items to reduce towing capaciy! Another thing, if the Suburban comes with Pmetric tires, get them changed to LT tires before you tow. The sidewalls on the Pmetric tires are just too soft for good towing stability. One of our friends spun his Suburban and Airstream (3 turns) in the middle of I-75 just south of Flint, MI where it is 4 lanes wide. Didn't hit anything, but had to clean paint from the gas bottles off the bumper. LT tires made it a different vehicle that tows great. Of course, he had to change his shorts.

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Old 06-12-2004, 07:44 AM   #17
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Another thing, before you make your decision, you might want to get a REAL weight on a scale. Airstream is often optomistic about how light their units are.

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Old 06-12-2004, 08:18 AM   #18
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I also have a 8.1 Avalanche - what a great ride it is! Very comfortable and tons of power. W/O trailer I've gotten as much as 17mpg on the hwy and you will love the response when you tap the accelerator. With the trailer I avg about 11 mpg. Also, they have had less problems with the 8.1 than they have had with the 6.0

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Old 06-12-2004, 08:20 AM   #19
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quad steering

I checked yesterday and quad steering in ONLY available in 2005 with the 6.0 liter engine, not on the larger on. This stuff drives me nuts. What really kills the max trailer wt capacity is the 4WD option, knocks about 2,000 lbs off. I could drop the 4WD, keep the quadrasteer and go with the 6 liter engine and have 9,300 lbs towing. Add 4WD and it goes to 7,300...so, if I believe having 4WD is more important then I have to move up to the 8 liter engine which now does not come with quad. Part of the decision is what's the better option to have, quadrasteer or 4WD. You'll use quad everyday, but when you do need the 4WD you really need it.
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Old 06-12-2004, 10:46 AM   #20
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And, don't forget, that manufacturers are often very "rosy scenario" about their published "tow capacities" as well IMHO.
They want to look good in their advertisements and sell you a vehicle just like the RV sales people want to sell you by saying, "Sure, you can tow this trailer with that!"
Mostly, they just want to make the sale.
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Old 06-12-2004, 10:57 PM   #21
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i have a 6.0 in my 4x4 3/4 silverado. they make as much horsepower as the old big blocks, 300 on mine 325 on the '02's and up.

it has plenty of power for towing my 29 footer all day at 75 mph, WITH the harley in the bed to boot.

as for ken's comment about "problems" they have sorted them all out now. i got lucky and have never had any problems with mine. most of the complaints were for "cold start knock" that is solved by using the proper oil filter in the truck. (read ac delco not fram!)

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ps one added benifit of getting the 6.0 is the 4l80E tranny, you can finally tow in overdrive!
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What really kills the max trailer wt capacity is the 4WD option, knocks about 2,000 lbs off. I could drop the 4WD, keep the quadrasteer and go with the 6 liter engine and have 9,300 lbs towing. Add 4WD and it goes to 7,300...so, if I believe having 4WD is more important then I have to move up to the 8 liter engine which now does not come with quad. Part of the decision is what's the better option to have, quadrasteer or 4WD. You'll use quad everyday, but when you do need the 4WD you really need it.
Hut,

According to the GMC website , Yukon XL 4WD Models w/ Quadrasteer and 4:10 gears are rated for 9300#. The 6.0 Vortec with 4:10 gears is a monster tow engine, 325hp and 365# torque. Add 4WD and Quadrasteer and I would think twice before passing that package up, IMHO.
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Old 06-13-2004, 08:20 AM   #23
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2500 Suburban

Just saw this post,
Please contact me if you want any information on 2500 Suburban with Quadrasteer. I am one of the first Suburban owners in my region. (VA)
At present my regional rep estimates that less than 100 are on the road as of this month. So if you do know of some one that has a 2500 q-steer Suburban please let me know.
I am in contact with the Chevorlet regional manager on a weekly basis as well as tech support at Chevorlet. My 2500 Suburban has had some tech challanges that has not occured on any other 2500 q-steer as of yet. I am sort of like a test driver, so when I say ask me I can pass any questions directly to the area manager.
I ordered my q-steer with camper mirrors, 4.10 rear, 2nd row captains chairs and block heater. When you spec out q-steer you also get auto ride and locking rear diff.

And I can help with all the diesel Suburban questions. No. Not even in the R&D pipeline.

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Old 06-13-2004, 02:05 PM   #24
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2500 with quad

I was told by GM that the quad only comes in the 3.7 gear ratio, can't get it in the 4.1 If I could that would solve my issue, I could get 4WD, Quad, and 9,300 lbs towing in the 6.0 liter.
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I was told by GM that the quad only comes in the 3.7 gear ratio, can't get it in the 4.1 If I could that would solve my issue, I could get 4WD, Quad, and 9,300 lbs towing in the 6.0 liter.
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I would double check that with GMC, not Chevy. According to the GMC website, what you want is offered. Check it out yourself:

http://www.gmc.com/specs/specs_conte...kon&vehicle=xl

I have the 6.0 Vortec with Quadrasteer, 4:10 gears, AWD and a 10,000# rating on my Sierra Denali. So it can be done.

Abe, does your new QS 'Burb have 4:10 gears?
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I just emailed GMC from the link you have and they emailed back that based on the information they have you can get a 2004, quad, 4wd, with 4.10. I'm waiting to order the 2005 because it also comes with the touch screen navigation system. I'll recheck with GMC tomorrow as well as Chevy. If 2004 GMC's come with quad, 4WD and 4.10 then you'd sure think the 2005 will too. Thanks for the heads up.
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I have the 2500 w/4.10

Hut,
I have the 2500 Chevorlet with the 4.10 gears. When you spec the q-steer you get the auto ride and locking diff. After that the only options really left were the 2nd row captains chairs( very nice) camping mirrors (must have in my book) and a block heater (poor mans garage)
Please pm me if you have any questions my dealer sells at 100$ over invoice. And since this Suburban is special order only it is "presold" before it arrives at the dealer. I took the 60 mo 0% option and had some bonus cash back in the end.
As far as the 4.10 rear end, I did order this , but after towing I almost think that it is "overkill"

Would like to chat if you have time.

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Abe,

Would love to see a pic of that sweet rig of yours. What color did you choose?

And do you really think the 4:10 gears are overkill? My 4:10 gears seem perfect and it is so smooth.
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