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04-30-2014, 08:08 AM
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2006 23' Safari SE
I'm In
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The Toyota 3.0 L diesel used in the Aussie Hilux pickup is 169 HP, has 343 lb of torque and gets 32.5 mpg. It is an inline 4 cylinder.
The V8 in my 4Runner has 235 hp, 320 lb of torque and get 18 mpg. I'd gladly trade for the Aussie diesel.
Toyota HiLux specifications sr 4x4 Single cab Cab Chassis Turbo Diesel Manual
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Rich & Yvonne
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04-30-2014, 08:14 AM
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Vintage Kin Owner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by richw46
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The US oil company's don't want us doing that move.
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04-30-2014, 08:45 AM
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If the new Ram 1500 diesel is successful in sales, they will all be there and it won't take them long to do it.
But we have to watch those gas/diesel miles per gallon comparisons; it's a lie unless the cost per gallon is equal, and it's not.
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04-30-2014, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by richw46
Hype is why. The big trucks are 4 and 6 cylinder diesels and they have plenty of power. But when you're marketing, having V8, 30 mpg and 500 ft lbs. of torque says a lot to the public. For years Chrysler has been touting "it's got a hemi", which is technology from the 60s and most people don't understand anyway, but it sells. Chrysler also has the V10 diesel but no one asks why, they just say "wow".
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The Mopar V10 is a spark-ignition engine, not a diesel. VW marketed a V10 TDI for a while in the US in the Touareg, but it's such ridiculous overkill for the application that they're equipping it with a very capable V6 TDI now instead.
The HEMI engines that Chrysler is making now don't have much more in common with the '50s Firepowers or '60s Hemis than the number of cylinders. Dual spark, electronic fuel injection, cylinder deactivation, relatively low emissions (compared to the old Hemis). They're just trading on the "Hemi" trademark they registered in the '60s.
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04-30-2014, 04:02 PM
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Dazed and Confused
Currently Looking...
1983 31' Airstream310
Hillsburgh
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Originally Posted by r carl
The Japanese have always copy catted American products!
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Yeah, that why the Japanese hopped right on that V8 diesel band wagon as soon as GM built the very first 350ci Olds diesel…..and we all know how that turned out.
It's the reason that GM sought out a partnership with Toyota (Nummi) as Toyota had crappy quality with a really stupid Just in Time assembly structure and GM thought they would teach them a thing or two about building cars back in the early 80's.
Remember the X cars, Caddilac Cimarron, Vega, Pinto, Tempo/Topaz……………..
Oh I get it now, you were being sarcastic. My bad
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04-30-2014, 08:07 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
I'm In
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DKB_SATX
The Mopar V10 is a spark-ignition engine, not a diesel.
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I stand corrected, I thought it was a diesel. Still, V10, who needs it? You can get all the power you need out of 6 cylinders. Many of the V6s will develop as much torque as the V8s.
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The HEMI engines that Chrysler is making now don't have much more in common with the '50s Firepowers or '60s Hemis than the number of cylinders. Dual spark, electronic fuel injection, cylinder deactivation, relatively low emissions (compared to the old Hemis). They're just trading on the "Hemi" trademark they registered in the '60s.
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I agree, it's just a reference to the shape of the piston head. What I meant was, most people don't even know what it refers to, yet it's a great marketing tool. There's a ton of psychology in car commercials.... and nearly always a pretty girl.
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