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Old 11-30-2008, 05:23 PM   #1
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Toyota Tundra as a Tow Vehicle

I was recently rear-ended by an 18-wheeler (trailer not in tow) which ended the towing career of my Cadillac ESV Escalade. I tow a 2007 27 FB Classic. I am fully aware that I towed at the edge with the Escalade, but carefully controlled loading and never had any problems. However, I am considering replacing the Escalade with the Tundra with 5.7 liter engine and 6-speed transmission. The listed tow rating of this truck is 10,100 lbs. My 27-footer typically weighs in at about 6,600 lbs (NOT counting 800 lbs on the tongue), but is rated up to 9,000 lbs.... can't imagine loading to that limit.

All of my weights are within the advertised capacity of the Tundra with 15 to 20 percent margin.

The truck will become my daily driver and I prefer not going to a 2500 HD Dodge/Chevy/Ford. Have cosidered a 2500 Suburban or GMC, but Toyota looks more user friendly for me.

Any knowledge, experience, or advice out there?

Thanks, Bud (evsjr)
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Old 11-30-2008, 06:23 PM   #2
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I was recently rear-ended by an 18-wheeler (trailer not in tow) which ended the towing career of my Cadillac ESV Escalade. I tow a 2007 27 FB Classic. I am fully aware that I towed at the edge with the Escalade, but carefully controlled loading and never had any problems. However, I am considering replacing the Escalade with the Tundra with 5.7 liter engine and 6-speed transmission. The listed tow rating of this truck is 10,100 lbs. My 27-footer typically weighs in at about 6,600 lbs (NOT counting 800 lbs on the tongue), but is rated up to 9,000 lbs.... can't imagine loading to that limit.

All of my weights are within the advertised capacity of the Tundra with 15 to 20 percent margin.

The truck will become my daily driver and I prefer not going to a 2500 HD Dodge/Chevy/Ford. Have cosidered a 2500 Suburban or GMC, but Toyota looks more user friendly for me.

Any knowledge, experience, or advice out there?

Thanks, Bud (evsjr)
My BIL has a tundra thats maybe 8 years old. He likes it but it sucks the fuel. He also was not happy to have to replace the very expensive exhaust manifolds at a bit over 100K miles. IIRC it gets only about 15 driving empty. It drives and rides pretty nice though.
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Old 11-30-2008, 06:41 PM   #3
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I tow my '09 25' Int. CCD with an '07 Tundra 5.7 and it works very well. I almost got a 28' CCD instead, but wondered if it would be too much for the Tundra. I feel that it could tow either, but I wanted to be on the light side of things. As it stands, the Tundra is very well suited for the 25'. This way, I don't have to worry about towing with full tanks up a grade, which I will do frequently. Also, some say the wheelbase of the Tundra is also an issue with the longer trailers, tho I can only comment on the 25'.

I feel the 5.7 6 speed Tundra is a dependable, capable truck. Acceleration while towing is impressive and when hooked up, my entire rig is level. I would like to say go for it.
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Old 11-30-2008, 06:42 PM   #4
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Bud, I have an '07 Tundra double cab with the 5.7 L. and a 25' Safari FB. I think it's a good combination, but I wouldn't tow a 27' Safari much less a Classic. I see in your post you say it's a Classic, but under your name it's an International CCD.

Look at the payloads for the Tundra—they are different for each trim line. They are adequate for a 25' Safari (now Flying Cloud), but anything heavier, and the Classic is a lot heavier, and I think you will have to have a truck empty of everything but the driver after a severe weight reduction program and no more than 5 gallons of gas (maybe an exaggeration). Payload is the limiting factor for the Tundra. It is a 1/2 ton, not a 3/4. I believe the standard cab model with 2wd—a hard combination to find—has the highest payload.

The Toyota is a very good truck, very reliable, though it uses more gas than I am happy with and changing the oil filter is a horrible experience. Because we wanted the Tundra, we limited our trailer selection because anything heavier than the Safari 25' was too much for the truck in our opinion.

Welcome to the Forum. There are endless threads about weight, various brands of trucks (be prepared for people's personal bias toward specific brands), hitching systems, etc. Some will recommend nothing less than towing with a monster truck and others will say you can do it with a Smart car (another exaggeration, but you'll see it starts to seem that way). It'll take a while to sort out.

Right now there are excellent deals on trucks and most especially on recent model trade ins.

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Old 11-30-2008, 07:06 PM   #5
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I love my Tundra

Well I have a 08, 5.7. I tow all 4 trailers with it and so far so good. I get 11 mpg towing and 16- 17 mph on the road without the trailer. In the city about 14.

I 'm not afraid to tow the 30 or the 18 its all good.
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Old 11-30-2008, 09:11 PM   #6
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Let's see now, a '68, 30' Sovereign, weighs around 4650 dry, an '07, 27' CCD, is around 6700, about 2,000 lbs. diff, almost 50% more with a some miss. stuff thrown in. Not such a good comp. The payload capacity is what hurts the smaller trucks.
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Old 11-30-2008, 09:30 PM   #7
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It will tow just fine.. I have the Sequia that has a little less payload, and have no problems with my old 28'.. I have also towed my friends 2004 28' safari.. Which is 2000# heavier than mine.. Still had no problems... Even going up the mountains at 75 mph..... I get 11-12 mpg towing and 18-20 mpg driving around without the trailer..


You could also look at the F-150 it has the same pay loads, and from the videos I have seen a stiffer frame... Not sure what a stiffer frame does for you in a 1/2 ton though...

I think you would be fine with either one... But I like the toyota.. Just my two cents..
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Let's see now, a '68, 30' Sovereign, weighs around 4650 dry, an '07, 27' CCD, is around 6700, about 2,000 lbs. diff, almost 50% more with a some miss. stuff thrown in. Not such a good comp. The payload capacity is what hurts the smaller trucks.
The 88 is a heavy trailer at 29 feet, don't discount that one, and again the truck does a good job. I saw a Tundra in Yellowstone this past summer pulling a 34, talked to the driver and he was happy too.
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Old 12-01-2008, 06:57 AM   #9
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There are two people in our unit that tow with the new Tundra....one tows a late model 31', and the other tows a late model (90's) 34'. They make it to the rallys every month without incident. Obviously it works, however this is not something I would recommend.
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There are many posts on tow vehicles. It's important to look at more than just "towing capacity" as listed by the manufacturer. Toyota has a good explanation of the terms online.

Where half-ton trucks can get into trouble is not the "towing capacity" but the GVWR. Let's say you have a '08 Tundra with a curb weight of about 5500 pounds and a GVWR of 7100 pounds. If you put 800 pounds on the hitch, that is about half of your payload capacity. That means you, passengers, gear, things in the bed, etc., are limited to 800 pounds. For some folks, that might be plenty... but many of us want to throw luggage in the back of the crew cab and load the bed with "other items." While it may seem like you have a great deal of excess capacity... you really don't.

Can you tow the described travel trailer with a Tundra? Yes. But you need to be conscious of the rated capacities, not just the trailer weight.
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"Going up the mountains at 75mph", man, I wish I had a tow rig, that could climb an 8% grade, at 75mph, with 7,000lbs of trailer behind it.
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If you read the Toyota specsifications you do not inclued the first 150 pounds of he driver. I guess I need to loose a few more pounds.
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I could go up the mountain at 75 if I want to watch the gas gauge drop faster than 75%—need a gas station at top of the pass. I try to go about 50-55 up steep grades, though I have gone a lot faster and used gallons of gas doing so.

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With my lighter smaller trailer I could do 75 easily up most mountains, but as Gene said it will burn way too much fuel doing so. I went over Wolf Creek Pass this summer and averaged 55-60, but did speed up at times to get around some very smelly diesels.
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