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Old 03-08-2016, 08:18 AM   #715
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A smaller gasoline tank is not as worrisome as a small diesel tank when out in the hinterlands.

My 2012 Cummins manual states up to 5% bio-diesel in a pinch. The Big 3 truck stops placard their pumps with "Up to 20% bio-diesel" at a higher price and less energy per gallon.

I seek out Chevron and Shell for diesel as usually they have plain diesel. I have been surprised a few times in Oregon and Texas when they have only bio-diesel.
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Old 03-09-2016, 08:24 PM   #716
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I don't think Toyota has ever addressed the size of its fuel tank. I wish they would, but I wouldn't make that a big factor in selecting a truck.
Mine has the e85 flex fuel option. Knock on wood, I've never had a problem, and have been getting 17-19 mpg, with more power than I need.
I'd like to get over 20 mpg. Don't know why, it's just a number.
The 2016 Tundra 5.7 with the tow package comes with a larger fuel tank (I think 36 gallons) and a built in brake controller (at last) though with a full tank of gas the towing rating decreases. Glad to hear you have done ok with the flex fuel engine. I have had mine in three times for related problems. Makes me wonder if gasoline really has more than 10% ethanol than advertised
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Old 03-10-2016, 04:39 AM   #717
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Yes, the 2016 has a larger (36? 39? gallon) fuel tank, built in trailer brake controller, and the headlights can be aimed to account for tongue weight on rear bumper so you are not blinding oncoming drivers.
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Old 03-10-2016, 06:44 AM   #718
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Well, they've changed the three things they needed to in order to make the perfect truck.
I love mine. I've read on the tundra forum though, where some of the e85 models really do have problems. Less than 10 mpg.. I keep knocking on wood with that one. It's difficult to find gas without the corn..
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Higher prices for the modified gas and less BTU energy output per gallon, so the real cost of decreased milage is never talked about.

The corn lobby wins for now, but the water used to grow corn is not sustainable long term as the water supply is diminishing world wide.
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Higher prices for the modified gas and less BTU energy output per gallon, so the real cost of decreased milage is never talked about.

The corn lobby wins for now, but the water used to grow corn is not sustainable long term as the water supply is diminishing world wide.
There are a few big ethanol plants near my farm. The amount of steam going up in the sky, seen at night, is amazing. It looks like a lot of energy to make that steam, and the water used, makes me think this whole ethanol thing wouldn't be happening without federal subsidies. Amazing amount of corn used also.
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Well, We went looking at new Tundras today, now that we are both retired thinking we would simplify our lives and have one vehicle instead of having a separate tow vehicle. We were surprised at the cargo capacity of only 1175 pounds, we love the truck (crew cab limited) but how do you make it work, with just the two of us the trailer and the hitch weight we seem maxed out.
I read somewhere that the WD hitch puts some of the hitch weight back on the trailer if so how much? I thought it just evened the weight on the truck.
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Old 03-11-2016, 10:29 AM   #724
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If you must abide by load capacity rating, then you have to manage the loads you carry. Figure 20% of hitch weight will be put on the Airstream axles. A late model Airstream 25 has a maximum total weight of 7300#, you need 10% on the hitch for stability, so 730#. We modified our Airstream 25 and adjust loading to stay near that hitch weight. We carry little gear in the back of our truck, and that gear forward of the rear axle, to assist the weight distribution hitch. We have upgraded tires on our Airstream (and can run on three in emergency according to the Owners Manual) so the spare tire is not needed as old Airstreamers often traveled. There are things you can do.

Some of us greatly prefer the ride and handling of lighter duty tow vehicles. Due to the great towing characteristics of Airstream trailers compared to anything else, they work very well for us Airstreamers; most probably not well for a typical box trailer of the same weight.

Tow vehicle ratings are not a dead end. They are a starting point.
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Well, We went looking at new Tundras today, now that we are both retired thinking we would simplify our lives and have one vehicle instead of having a separate tow vehicle. We were surprised at the cargo capacity of only 1175 pounds, we love the truck (crew cab limited) but how do you make it work, with just the two of us the trailer and the hitch weight we seem maxed out.
I read somewhere that the WD hitch puts some of the hitch weight back on the trailer if so how much? I thought it just evened the weight on the truck.

Hi, if you didn't already buy this truck, keep looking. When I bought my 2014 F-150 there was a fancy F-150 on the show room floor; It had a 1,065 lb payload. This was un-acceptable to me. The truck that I bought has a payload of 1,745 lbs. My trailer's tongue weight takes about 900 lbs of my payload leaving me room for 845 lbs.
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Weight distribution might transfer 200#-400# back to the trailer axle/
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my 2008 tundra was a very comfortable ride, extended cab. my 2010 tundra, crew cab, was most uncomfortable. i got rid of it pretty quickly. now i really don't understand how folks can report 20mpg as the very best i ever did, not towing was 16 mpg. both trucks were 4x4s which i am sure did make a difference.

i ended up with an F350 diesel. i added a 50g aftermarket fuel tank. i no longer worry about load or towing capacities. not towing, 20-21 at hwy speeds. towing the 25', 13.5-14.5 mpg at hwy speeds.

folks, when you post up numbers, it would be very helpful if you clarify if you are driving a two wheel drive truck or a 4x4. thanks.
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