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Old 07-03-2015, 05:46 AM   #645
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I had heard the diesel option was dead, but Nissan was still going through with it for the Titan. They must have revived it. That'd be tempting, if it wasn't a $7,000 to $10,000 option. That'll cover the cost of a lot of gas. I know there's other differences as well, but I'm only pulling a 23' trailer.

Gnorts, thanks for the info on the suspension upgrade. It really makes that much difference? I'm going to really check it out.
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Old 07-03-2015, 06:40 AM   #646
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Taking the car in for service-
Will at least ask folks at the dealership-


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Old 07-03-2015, 04:04 PM   #647
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Our Tundra came with Bilsteins and TRD suspension. It rides very well, handles on corners very well. It rides better since we changed the tires to Michelins eons ago. We had a 2002 Tundra and the '07 rides and handles better than the '02.

I have read of "bed bounce" with Tundras on certain roads. They seem to be on concrete highways found in southern Cal. When we were in southern Cal. several years ago, we noticed bed bounce a bit, but no where else except on I-70 east of Denver—also a concrete highway. Both times were when towing, but it stopped as soon as we got on another highway. We've traveled 50,000 miles towing and another 50,000 without, and those were the only times we had a problem, even on other concrete highways. I guess the distance between joints on those roads resonates with the suspension, and is not otherwise a problem unless you live near such a highway.

At almost 101,000 miles, the truck performs like new. I am tired at looking at the same dashboard for 8 years, but I can handle that as a new similar model seems to cost upwards of $10,000 more than we paid in 2007. I'm waiting for three things: better gas mileage, a recession when prices go down and a bunch of money.

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Old 07-03-2015, 04:11 PM   #648
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I'll just keep looking at the same old dash-
My 2007 has 47,000 miles.
It is a nice dash- carbon fiber overlay where satin nickel or wood grain would normally be- double DIN touch screen navi-


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Old 07-03-2015, 04:25 PM   #649
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I'll just keep looking at the same old dash-
My 2007 has 47,000 miles.
It is a nice dash- carbon fiber overlay where satin nickel or wood grain would normally be- double DIN touch screen navi-
We have the lowly SR5 with the common man's dashboard featuring tunnels for the instrumentation that are hard to clean. For navigation, we have a revolutionary technology that does not require batteries or any electricity (unless you want to see at night). It is called a "map". When we get on the wrong road, I can't blame anyone but my wife. Unlike the fancy navigation systems, when I blame her, she talks back so then I blame it on a missing road sign. When she's driving, it is her fault, not the guy reading the map.

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Found this site. Don't know how accurate it is.

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Old 07-04-2015, 09:36 AM   #651
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Same old dash doesn't offend me-
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I've been lookin' at it for 7 years.
Been lookin' at my Pathfinder dash for 15 years.


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Found this site. Don't know how accurate it is.

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Thanks for the link. Seems the diesel will be an option after years and years of speculation. And TRD will only be available only the most expensive models. That's not good as the TRD suspension is better for towing. And a small V6 engine seemingly inspired by the Ford EB will not be powerful enough for towing any but small trailers. The big V8 does not seem to be much or any different than the present very powerful gas hog, but the diesel, only available on the most expensive model also, will have significant boost in mileage, but it may take a very long time for it to pay off. The few design tweaks look good—mostly new grille and maybe some refinements to the dash. Looks like a Cummins diesel rather than a Toyota one. My guess is that a diesel TRD model will come with every option known in this universe and cost somewhere north of $50,000. The present 5.7 L. Platinum model with lots of options lists in the mid 50's now.

I have found over the years that speculation about what Toyota will do is often wrong, so we'll see how it works out. I think I'll be keeping my aged Tundra for a while. Maybe it will be my last truck.

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Old 07-04-2015, 01:19 PM   #653
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My Tundra might be my last truck.
47,000 miles and paid for trumps any new engine option.


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Yeh, if I bought the new diesel, it would probably take so long to pay off, I'd be 100 years old and would want to be buried in it.

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Toyota TSB for rough ride in the Tundra.

There is a TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) that was issued in 2010 (I think) concerning the rough ride on certain pavements.
Talk to a service adviser telling them that you have a rough ride. The dealer can install new rear rubber bushings holding the cabin to the frame and it will partially alleviate the body jitter going down the road. I think that Toyota installed the softer bushings on the 2011 and newer pickups during manufacture.
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Owner would have to pay for this?

I just figured its a pickup truck which is a compromise road comfort for carry loads. I've seen youTube videos showing various trucks on a ripple test track and the Tundra looks pretty bad compared to GM and Ford.

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I never have paid for TSB work. You just have to complain to the dealer about the jittery ride. The service adviser informed me he would have the mechanic take the truck for a ride, I gave them an example of a local stretch of road where the truck was riding jittery. They took the truck (my 2010) for a ride and agreed. The change is complimentary from the factory/dealer.
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Total cost of ownership is the key, you're right. My old beater gets only 20 mpg, but it's been paid for since 1994, insurance is next to nothing and maintenance is in the category of 'only absolutely necessary'. If your truck does what you need it to do, whatever the cost of repair is, it's going to beat the pants off the price of a new one.

I hope to be driving my '04 4Runner for a long time. It has only 79,000 on it, so many miles yet to go.
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