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Old 06-19-2015, 07:54 PM   #589
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I have 2015 Tundra, double cab, 4X4, full tow package, 5.7, 4:30 gears and tow a 2004, 28' Airstream Classic without any problems. I run rpms on hill climbs, not miles per hour. Keeping the RPMs between 1800 and 2500 get about 14.5 miles per gallon. Mixture of hilly, flats,eastern and western OR, southern ID mountains. Trips from Spokane WA to Astoria OR and Spokane to Salt Lake.

The biggest problem we came across was the way the dealer set up to Equalizer Hitch. Was way out, once set-up according to Manufactures Spec works great. All the crazy noise it was making is gone.

We tow the Airstream with full fresh water tank. Adds weight but sure improves the tow.

Only down size is the Toyota Tundra factory Tow Mirrors need to extend another 2" to really see around the Classic. With trailer being a wide body the extra extension would be nice.

We noticed on our current trip going though Idaho on I-84 everyone thought 70 to 80 was the right speed...including semi's--

Like I said running rpm's saves on wear and tear and is great for gas mileage. Towing at 70-80 is just crazy. Just beacsue it says you can does not mean you must.
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Old 06-19-2015, 08:26 PM   #590
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I run 70mph towing a 28ft International when the roads are in very good condition and weather permits.But my tow vehicle weighs in at 8500 lbs and was built for this application.My Airstream is also set up to run at this speed.My wheel bearings are American made Timkin brand along with synthetic grease.I install and service them myself.Tires are Michelin Ribs mounted on 16' Sendel wheels with pressure set at 70 Psi nitrogen.I have driven on most of the major racetrack in the USA and have been lucky enough to have learned some of the top drivers and stunt men to ever live.
So if you have the right equipment and it is set up properly,road condition is right and you are trained to drive both in avoidance and high speed I see no problem pulling at 70 mph.

Oh I forgot common sense is a big factor.


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Old 06-20-2015, 12:02 AM   #591
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I have 2015 Tundra,

Only down size is the Toyota Tundra factory Tow Mirrors need to extend another 2" to really see around the Classic. With trailer being a wide body the extra extension would be nice.

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Milenco Grand Aero or similar. EAGLE One, maybe. No such thing as too much mirror.
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Old 06-20-2015, 06:15 AM   #592
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I run 70mph towing a 28ft International when the roads are in very good condition and weather permits.But my tow vehicle weighs in at 8500 lbs and was built for this application.My Airstream is also set up to run at this speed.My wheel bearings are American made Timkin brand along with synthetic grease.I install and service them myself.Tires are Michelin Ribs mounted on 16' Sendel wheels with pressure set at 70 Psi nitrogen.I have driven on most of the major racetrack in the USA and have been lucky enough to have learned some of the top drivers and stunt men to ever live.
So if you have the right equipment and it is set up properly,road condition is right and you are trained to drive both in avoidance and high speed I see no problem pulling at 70 mph.

Oh I forgot common sense is a big factor.


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Just curious.. Were you headed north on highway 61 towards Hannibal on Thursday? (I think that's the day.) I passed a big Ford F450 pulling a very nice AS. I thought it looked like a nice rig. I didn't catch if it was a Missouri plate or not. I was in my car, not the truck, but I always notice Airstreams.
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Old 06-20-2015, 11:01 AM   #593
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Not me I have a 2015 f350 black super crew platinum with a 28ft international.Home base is Springfield Mo.


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Old 06-21-2015, 07:08 AM   #594
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Ok, come to think of it, I might have seen a 350 instead of a 450. You've got a twin driving around out there.
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Old 06-22-2015, 02:46 PM   #595
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Just finished my first trip out west towing my 2008 Classic 25fb with my 2010 Tundra DC 2wd using Equalizer hitch 1000lb bars. Towed out from Springfield, MO to North Rim Grand Canyon via I44 to I40 to Flagstaff then up 89 to get to North Rim. Average mpg to Flagstaff was 11.8 trying to average 60mph. Handled the hills OK, having to drop to 3rd gear a few times. Best mpg interval was 13.4mpg and worse was 10.4. Fighting the wind from Sayre, OK to Amarillo, TX. I drove in S with the transmission set to 5 and manually shifted down when approaching hills.

From Flagstaff, AZ to Jacobs Lake, AZ including the climb was 12.6mpg. The Tundra seems to get better mpg at altitude so far.

The only issue I had with my Tundra was the brakes. Probably didn't have the trailer brake controller set high enough for the trailer maybe After leaving North Rim I headed for Zion NP. Just before Hurricane there is an 8% grade down to Hurricane. I manually shifted down from 5 to 4. Too fast then down to 3 still too fast then down to 2 and still not able to maintain 40 for those curves. Started to pump the brakes but had to use steady pressure before a few curves. Suddenly the steering wheel started to shake when applying brakes almost like I had a warped rotor.

Got down into Hurricane and stopped and performed a visual check. Rotors and pads looked OK. Not much braking to Zion and the braking felt normal, no vibration.

No issues from Zion to Bryce going north on I15 then over to Panguitch on Ut 20.

However coming back home on I70 down from the Ike tunnel into Denver the problem came back. Trying to maintain the speed limit I'd come onto a truck descending at 25 mph and I couldn't get into the next lane due to heavy traffic. I had to apply brakes steady while in 2nd gear. Started to get the shimmy again. I70 was not fun coming into Denver, the combination of heavy traffic, slow trucks, rough road surface and winding downhill grades. But once out of the mountains and into Denver the brakes felt normal. Checked all discs and they and the pads look OK.

Another issue I had was I felt uneasy with some of the curves down these passes. Most of the time I went the speed limit or maybe 5mph slower. I never felt I was about to loose it over the curve but I got that uneasy feeling in my stomach. I never squealed the tires around any curves but it felt like the trailer wanted to continue straight while the Tundra was trying to turn. I'm thinking I need to adjust Equalizer to add more load to the steering axle. The Tundra is riding level as well as the trailer.

So my confidence in my Tundra's performance on the downhills is a little shaken. I'll be looking into getting new brake pads soon anyway and tires.

MPGs got worse as I drove through eastern Colorado and Kansas. I guess the wind, lower elevations took its affect.

I had one Tundra towing a longer trailer pass me on I70 east of Green River. I was 60mph and he must have been going 70 mph. He must of been in 4 gear and shifting to 3 a lot to maintain that speed. Probably getting 7mpg vs my 12.5mpg I got between Richfield, UT and Grand Junction, CO.
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Toyota Tundra as a Tow Vehicle

The trailer was pushing the Tundra,you were probably feeling the abs system coming into play due to to loss of adhesion.


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Old 06-22-2015, 06:48 PM   #597
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Upgrade your front rotors with slotted/dimpled units. I did that to my Titan 100000 miles ago and it solved all -- no overheating, no fade. Pretty easy DIY if you have basic skills.

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I'll be taking mine over a few Colorado passes later this summer. Thanks for the heads up. I've driven that stretch on I70 coming into Denver from the west several times. Traffic there can make it pretty challenging.
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Old 06-23-2015, 12:34 PM   #599
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We had developed vibration in the brakes around 70,000 miles and I had the rotors replaced. They immediately vibrated again. They had them turned and for the next 30,000 miles they were ok. On our last two trips we had a few times when we pressed hard on the brakes where there was vibration again. That's the only time it has happened. It did not feel like ABS engaging.

When I had the rotors replaced, I told them to use best rotors (within reason). These (as were the OEM ones) are vented. I figured I'd get another 70,000 miles out of them and by then it would be someone else's truck.

We always downshift on hills and rarely have to use the brakes a lot. Usually 3rd is good for steep grades on interstates, though we do go down to 2nd on very steep roads. Rarely need 1st. I don't ride the brakes descending, just pump them slowly and not too hard to keep temps from building up too high—it is the high temps that warp rotors. I'm not sure what to think about the latest vibration. Pads are fine and the OEM pads should last 100,000 miles or more. I had the pads replaced at 70,000 because the brakes were being repaired and pads are cheap, so why not?

The trip downhill through Mt. Vernon Canyon on I-70 coming to Denver between the Chief Hosa and Morrison exits is very busy, very fast and steep. State cops used to hide at the bottom. Usually the center lane is a bit slower (but hardly "slow") and you don't get stuck behind big trucks in the right lane. People go 70-75 in the left lane (speed limit is 65 I think), 60-70 in the center lane. I have driven that section of road thousands of times and never enjoyed that stretch with or without a trailer. If you think that was fun, try it in winter during a bad storm. Every one in Denver with bad tires tries to go up the highway and then they have to abandon their cars in the middle of the road. That's when we'd take a back road to get home and we'd wait until after rush hour to even try. That Canyon seems to funnel the heaviest snow in the area onto I-70 and snowfall can be 3" or more per hour in the foothills west of Denver.

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Good to read your post since I just changed from a 95 25 foot Excella to a 04 28 foot Classic. My Tundra is an 08 Crew Cab with a Hensley hitch. My Tundra pulled the 25 like it was not there, just a little concerned about the additional length, width and weight. Your post made me feel more confident. We are leaving tomorrow across the California Tioga Pass (9943 feet). After this event I should have no concerns about travel anywhere.
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I had the vibration in the front brakes a couple of times. It went away. I figured the rotors were overheated.


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I had the vibrations with my 08 coming down the mountain. Put new rotors on and still vibrations. Fiddled with the brake controller and the vibrations are about gone. Coming down from almost 10,000 feet should be a good test.
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