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Old 04-05-2010, 12:28 PM   #127
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We replaced the Goodrich tires with Michelin with A/T2 LR E and we are very happy with them. They ride better than the OEM tires and are wearing better too. We now have around 20,000 miles on them.

We've fooled around with different tire pressures. We called Michelin two or three times and got different recommendations about that each time. Generally mid-40 psi without towing and 4-5 pounds more towing seem to work about right if I remember correctly.

We also replaced the Goodyears on our Safari with Michelin LTX M+S LR E. These are 16" tires, so we had to replace the wheels also. The OEM wheels' coating was coming off anyway. The trailer seems to feel like it tows better with the Michelins but we could be imagining it. I can't remember whether we settled on 65 or 70 psi on the trailer tires.

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Did you have to do any trimming to accommodate the larger wheels and tires?

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Old 04-05-2010, 02:11 PM   #128
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Did you have to do any trimming to accommodate the larger wheels and tires?

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No.

Each trailer is different. Tires are different too. Most manufacturers will have the diameter of their tires on their websites and while they don't differ by much, it's best to check.

Airstream was selling 16" wheels and tires—they were on display in JC last fall, but I can't find them on their website now.

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Old 04-05-2010, 03:58 PM   #129
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I have to tell you about our experience with the new 5.7L Tundra as a TV.

Pulled our 1989 29' Excella last year with a 2008 Tundra 2WD for about 5,000 miles thru the NC, TN and VA mountains and beach. At first we thought it was going to be a great tow vehicle but once you get to the foot-hills, that ends the Tundra's capabilities. It shifts from 6th to 5th gear constantly and has a bounce that seems to reverberate for 5 to 10 seconds after the smallest road bump. It shakes you like a bad road but there isn't one. In our opinion, it's not a very good TV for anything above 5,000 lbs.

We sold it and purchased a used F250 and couldn’t begin to tell you the difference it has made on our trips. We both feel much safer with the heavier TV and our fuel mileage is actually better.
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Old 04-05-2010, 06:01 PM   #130
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NCX', I'm sorry to hear of your bad experience. We have towed our Safari about 20,000 miles with our Tundra and have had none of the experiences you've had. In hilly country it would never be in 6th gear or probably 5th because those are overdrive gears mostly for cruising on level ground. Did you try to get the transmission tested for an adjustment? We haven't experienced the kind of reverberating bounce you've described either—perhaps the hitch wasn't adjusted properly. We find the truck rides very smoothly under any circumstances.

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Old 04-06-2010, 10:46 AM   #131
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Also if the transmission is hunting inbetween gears it is better to lock it in to a gear say 5th or 4th with the auto stick than to leave it in drive and have is constantly shift. If it is constantly shifting the transmission will over heat alot faster and cause alot of damage to the transmission.

I have the bed bounce you speak of and it sucks but when loaded down it goes away I am not sure why it would still an issue while towing as it would seem you have plenty of weight on the rig to smooth out the ride.
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I'm pretty sure our experience was very unusual. Too many happy Tundra owners out there for it to be a problem across the board. We did take it back to the dealer for adjustment but it didn't change anything. We use 4th and 5th gear in the mountains so that cured the shifting problem. The bouncing never stopped, even with new shocks.
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Do you two (NCX' and 'welder') have the TRD option? Ours does and it has Billstein shocks.

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Old 04-06-2010, 03:07 PM   #134
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Toyota recommends "tow/haul" mode when towing heavy stuff. That changes the shift points and reduces hunting between gears. We also have the TRD and optional rear sway bar, and have not experienced the problem you describe. However, our 19-foot Bambi is significantly lighter than your rig. We also lock out the overdrive gears when in the mountains.
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Old 04-06-2010, 03:35 PM   #135
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no trd option but I dont have bilstien front level shocks and will be adding them to the rear as soon as I find the money to do so.
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Old 05-15-2010, 02:08 PM   #136
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Just wanted to add my 2 cents worth since I have an 08 2wd Tundra 5.7L with the SR5 package, backup camera and tow mirrors. This is an outstanding 1/2 ton tow vehicle. Mine only has 15k miles on it and I use it mainly for towing my 66Tradewind. It has everything I could ask for an a tv except blue tooth and satellite radio and I guess I could add that if I wanted. It has plenty of power ,403 ft-lbs torque, 4.3 rear end provides towing grunt, and a 6 spd transmission for cruising at 60 and only turning 1,200 rpm. I took my TW down the Blue Ridge Parkway and got 14 mpg and also took it down to the outer banks of North Carolina and got 12 mpg. So fuel economy is outstanding. I would not hesitate to tow my TW anyplace with my Tundra and I plan to take it to Alaska in the next year or so. I can't say the same about towing my 84 31ft Excella, but I would tow it on flat land and watch my speed accordingly. I recognize I may be at the trucks published limits towing my 31 footer, so I would tow it very carefully and not ask it to tow thru the rockies etc. Afterall, it is a 1/2 ton truck and the gvwr is its major limitation.
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Dan, I don't know the GVWR of your Excella, but it should be well within the total tow capacity of the Tundra. Dry weight is as much as 600 lbs. more than our trailer depending which Excella you have, so my guess is your trailer's GVWR is between 8,000 and 8,500 lbs. That would be roughly 80% of the Tundra tow capacity. Our Safari loaded with all sorts of stuff can be towed up high Coiorado passes at 65 or more, but 55 makes more sense unless you own an gasoline refiner.

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My Excella gvwr is 8,300 lbs and my Tundra max trailer rating is 10,600 lbs. However I think that I will hit the Tundra GVWR of 6,900 lbs long before I reach the max trailer weight of 10,600 lbs. My Tundra is only a 2wd so I am about 300 lbs lighter than a 4wd- payload is about 1,700 lbs. However I have a bed cap, plan on carring a power board with about 300 lbs of batteries in my bed, about 150 lbs for a generator and then the weight of two adults, gas and all the other normal stuff that goes into the bed and the enclosed interior of the truck. It is not an issue when towing my TW, so I have not even taken my truck to the scales yet, but I will when I tow my Excella. I have no doubt that the Tundra will have plenty of power to tow the Excella. The motor is not the limiting factor that makes the Tundra a 1/2 tv, it is the chasis (frame, suspension,wheels, axles, brakes, etc.). With the Excella, I expect to be very close to or possibly over the gvwr of the Tundra. I will still tow the Excella with it but I will be extra careful with a mindful eye on elevation and speed.

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Dan, your Excella GVWR is more than I thought. Payload on the Tundra (another way of saying what you're saying) is the limiting factor. When I crawl around under mine the brakes, size of the differential, size of the driveline, all say 3/4 ton to me, so it's hard to reconcile that with the ratings of the truck. Glad you understand payload as many don't.

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We also tow a 27-foot Bayliner cabin cruiser with a combined boat/trailer weight of about 9000 pounds. The towing experience is much different than our 19-foot Bambi, as the tongue weight is only about 250 pounds, and the triple axle trailer has surge brakes.

Our previous TV was a 1978 Chevy crewcab 3/4 ton pickup (Hal) with a 454 V8. In comparison, our 2008 Tundra CrewMax has a lot more towing power and stability than Hal, even though it is only a 1/2 ton pickup. While we haven't towed our boat over the Rockies, the Tundra works great for the local lakes.

We haven't tried pulling the Bayliner to Lake Powell yet, which would be a better test, as there are several long grades on that trip; but if and when we make that trip, I'll post the results.
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