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Old 09-30-2014, 05:26 PM   #29
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Hi, We have just gone from a 25' FC to a 30'11" FC and tow with a 2008 IForce V8 Crew Max Cab Tundra. We bought from Colonial Airstream and ordered the ProPride Hitch. Amazing......we still don't know the Airstream is back there. Tows like a dream. John

I am with you with the 1/2 ton, articulated hitch and a big trailer... Let us see if everyone concurs....
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Old 09-30-2014, 06:55 PM   #30
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It's the ProPride that makes it so.
I have a Tundra CrewMax 5.7 pulling a 30' Classic with an Equal-i-zer. It handles fine, but fine tuning is almost impossible.
I can tow easily with good weight distribution and sway control, but my trailer is nose down and it bugs me.
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Hi, We have just gone from a 25' FC to a 30'11" FC and tow with a 2008 IForce V8 Crew Max Cab Tundra. We bought from Colonial Airstream and ordered the ProPride Hitch. Amazing......we still don't know the Airstream is back there. Tows like a dream. John
Thanks for the feedback. Will be heading soon to Colonial Airstream to see about trading up to a 27 or most likely a 30 footer.
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Old 10-01-2014, 08:46 AM   #32
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Go for the 30!
Make it the last trade for a while-
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Old 10-01-2014, 09:32 AM   #33
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It's the ProPride that makes it so.
I have a Tundra CrewMax 5.7 pulling a 30' Classic with an Equal-i-zer. It handles fine, but fine tuning is almost impossible.
I can tow easily with good weight distribution and sway control, but my trailer is nose down and it bugs me.
I think my Equalizer is the same and the trailer may be slightly nose down as well with my Tundra. Would adding another washer into the head help or with 1000 lb bars are they all ready doing all they can do with 4 washers. Propride and Hensley are heavy compared to an Equalizer so do they reduce the payload even more. I'm not sure most RV repair/dealers would know how to install one correctly in my area.

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Old 10-01-2014, 05:07 PM   #34
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Go for the 30!
Make it the last trade for a while-
That is what we are thinking!
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Old 10-06-2014, 12:11 PM   #35
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We went ahead and put a down payment on a 30' International Serenity. Will have to wait a couple of weeks as the dealer had to order and then install the window awning package. So about this time next month, will let you know how the Tundra handles the 30 footer, though the 4 hour drive home will have almost no hills to mention. Can't wait!
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Old 10-06-2014, 01:37 PM   #36
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It will be fine. I drug a 28' travel trailer behind my Tundra 2 1/2 years before I bought the 30' Airstream. I've been dragging the Airstream around for 2 years. 32,000 of my 42,000 miles are towing a camper. We just returned from a 250 mile trip and are going to Texas Saturday.
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Old 10-06-2014, 01:39 PM   #37
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Go ahead and get a ProPride now.
$45,000 truck
$80,000 trailer
Why not invest in a $2,300 hitch to make it safe, comfortable, enjoyable?
No, I don't work for ProPride...
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Old 10-06-2014, 03:01 PM   #38
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ST tires are not speed rated, but there is a suggestion to not exceed 65 mph. Goodyear says you can go 75 by increasing air pressure in Marathons, but that means a harder ride for the trailer. We don't feel comfortable going over 65, so we don't. We use Michelin LT's on the trailer and the truck. Michelins ride smoother than most other tires, so that is another plus. I believe ST tires are poor quality, don't last long plus they have a history of blow outs; Michelins easily go 60,000 or more miles, so although they are expensive, over time you are ahead.

The Tundra easily pulls our 25 and I don't think a 27 is much different. I'm sure it can pull a 30, but the added weight will wear the engine, transmission and suspension faster. At the price of today's trucks, that would concern me. The Tundra is overbuilt for a half ton, but things wear and you don't know it until it breaks.

Tongue weight as stated by Airstream is unrealistic. And it doesn't count the weight of the propane or a spare tire or stuff loaded into the front of the trailer. A WD hitch transfers approximately 1/3 of the tongue weight to the trailer axles and 1/3 each to each truck axle. We weighed the stuff we bring and got just under the payload for a Double Cab. The Crew Cab has less payload. I was glad to get by because otherwise we would have had to amputate our left legs to reduce weight. Since the Tundra is an automatic, you don't really need your left leg to drive, but it could be a problem to set the emergency brake or walk.

The owner's manual tells you how to weigh the tongue with a household scale and a lever set up, but I've never done it. Take the company weight and add several hundred pounds, divide by 3 and take the number and subtract it from tongue weight to calculate true tongue weight with a WD hitch. Toyota includes a full gas tank when they state payload, so that helps. Some people add an extra leaf or air bags to the suspension, but you still have to consider axles, differential, transmission and engine wear. Put the heaviest stuff forward in the bed to balance weight between front and rear axles. I put the trailer spare in the front of the bed because a 16" tire is hard to get in and out of the tire carrier. This adds maybe 10 lbs. for payload, not enough to worry about.

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You really don't want to go over 65 with your Tundra and a travel trailer.
I tried it once and got 7 mpg.
I went 55 mph home on the same trip and got 10 mpg. That's enough to slow me down.
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You really don't want to go over 65 with your Tundra and a travel trailer.
I tried it once and got 7 mpg.
I went 55 mph home on the same trip and got 10 mpg. That's enough to slow me down.
Thanks for the heads up. When I drove from MD to Utah this summer, I would accidentally creep up over 55 to as high as 70. When I realized it, I slowed down. That is how easy the Tundra pulled the 25'.
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The Tundra will accelerate like there's no trailer back there.
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Old 10-07-2014, 12:45 PM   #42
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Remember the "55 mph" days? Each 5 mph increment over that typically decreases fuel economy about 10%.

I know our diesel could pull the trailer faster than I care to even ride a motorcycle. On a straight and empty highway out here, I ran her up to 80 just to see what it was like. No thanks for me.

The Lie-o-Meter fuel economy was around 5 mpg. I got 12.3 on the return trip from the Ballon Festival even going through the mountains by staying at 65 mph maximum on I-40 or the lower posted speed limits on the other roads.

The Gold Wing could hit close to 39 mpg at 60 mph and close to 25 mpg at 80 mph on I-10 in Texas (the posted speed limit between El Paso and San Antonio).

Speed reduces one's ability to react in time and eats fuel faster. An old engineering maximum is that to double the speed takes 4x the power which equates with a lot more fuel being consumed.
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