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Old 08-24-2016, 02:05 PM   #61
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Not taking it as a dis-
Realizing throttle response could be as simple as the spring in the accelerator pedal-
I still love my truck and think is totally up to the task of hauling my Classic 30 around almost every weekend.
Whatever brand someone likes-
Whatever features convinced them one or the other was best for this reason or that-
Whatever you like will serve you well with good dependability, reliability, longevity-
The million mile Tundra has the now defunct 4.7.
I wonder if the 5.7 or 4.6 will ever have a million mile video on YouTube.
I honestly don't think the numbers are figured the same way from brand to brand- there is no standard unless all manufacturers have adopted J2807.
Otherwise it is impossible to compare apples to apples.
The Tundra only has 2 engine choices backed by one each transmission choice and one each rear end gears slightly different depending on 2-wheel drive or 4-wheel drive and tow package.
I opted for the bigger engine due to testosterone maybe, but it is a hoss.
Mine is a 2 wheel drive tow package truck.


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Just an FYI..I believe everyone is now J2807 as well as Torque and HP number compliance. I forget the J-number for power ratings, but all complied with that quite a few years ago. Apples are pretty much apples nowadays. FYI also, back in the day, Toyota was indeed the "marketing offender" with T and HP. They tested with no belts driving A/C, PS,, water pump etc. Everyone else had driven components in the test routine. SAE thought better of that one as well as towing figures later.
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Old 08-24-2016, 02:11 PM   #62
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401 ft lb torque is sufficient to pull my 34' trailer, and my Sequoia does it comfortably.

If I were in a race I could just put on the OEM supercharger for that engine. Then I'd get 510 hp and 550 ft lbs of torque.
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Old 08-24-2016, 02:13 PM   #63
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401 ft lb torque is sufficient to pull my 34' trailer, and my Sequoia does it comfortably.

If I were in a race I could just put on the OEM supercharger for that engine. Then I'd get 510 hp and 550 ft lbs of torque.
And I'm not saying otherwise. If youz happy, that's all that matters. I'm just a stickler for accuracy of facts and figures.
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Old 08-24-2016, 04:46 PM   #64
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The GM 6.2 gas is rated at maybe 425 hp and 425 ft. lbs. of torque.
The 5.7 Tundra has 381 hp and 401 ft. lbs. of torque.
Facts, but...
To my foot and gut the Tundra FEELS stronger, more responsive, quicker accelerating.
I said this in an earlier post.
It could be transmission gears.
It could be rear end gears.
It could be the spring in the accelerator pedal.
It could be any and/or all of the above.
The Tundra CrewMax still has a larger rear seat area with larger rear doors that open to nearly 90 degrees rather than the 45 degree opening rear doors of others.
It is easier to exit the rear seat of a CrewMax Tundra. The cab is just bigger. The B-pillar isn't in the way of your feet. You just stick your foot out and exit.
When exiting a GM crew cab my feet get hung up at the B-pillar. It takes some thought to figure out how to turn my foot to get it out.
Even compared to Duramax/Allison GM 3/4 ton and 1 ton trucks I can't tell a nickel's worth of difference.
True, the GM trucks at work are towing trailers heavier than my Airstream...
The Tundra feels good to me.
I like it.


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Old 08-24-2016, 04:48 PM   #65
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401 ft lb torque is sufficient to pull my 34' trailer, and my Sequoia does it comfortably.



If I were in a race I could just put on the OEM supercharger for that engine. Then I'd get 510 hp and 550 ft lbs of torque.

Too bad the TRD supercharger is no longer being built.
Maybe there are still some of them hanging around in parts bins.
Who else has 501 hp and 550 ft. lbs. of torque?


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We were talking about the 4.7 million mile Tundra in the video.
Not sure the 5.7 will last as long as the 4.7, but I'm sure it will last a long time.


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Thanks, I missed that. I had a 4.7 in my 4Runner. It was a great engine. Still wish I had it.
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Old 08-24-2016, 06:36 PM   #67
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The GM 6.2 gas is rated at maybe 425 hp and 425 ft. lbs. of torque.
ggreen was comparing Tundra to Ford F150 and Chevy 2500.

Yes, Chevy makes a strong 6.2L engine, but you can't get it in the 2500

Likewise, Toyota makes diesel engines, but they don't put them in Tundras in the US.
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Old 08-24-2016, 09:10 PM   #68
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"The GM 6.2 gas is rated at maybe 425 hp and 425 ft. lbs. of torque."

420hp and 460 torque. Geez guys, it would take 2 seconds to google this stuff. Again, I'm a stickler for accuracy and facts and figgers.
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Old 08-24-2016, 10:05 PM   #69
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I still like my toyota pickups. They take the abuse I dish out, seem to run forever in spite of it, and they seem to be the right fit for my family. If we go to a bigger truck to haul our 22' International better/faster/stronger it will be a nice Tundra crew cab setup. 4x4 optional. Diesel would be nice, but I'm sticking with what I like.

GMC has been a total pain to me in the past, and I won't consider a Ford for similar reasons.

As the old saying goes, you pay your money, and you take your choice. To me and my family, it's Toyota or a Toyota product (Lexus). We've tried other brands, had s fleet of Volvos for a while, but that fleet, while very safe, took far more engineering and hard work to maintain. I don't have to sweat the Toyotas...


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It will be very difficult to get me out of a Toyota. We've just had great luck with them for years and years. We've run the landcruisers up to 250,000 before we sold them, and they still had good resale. Same with 4 Runners, and a Tacoma. I a sales rep,,so I put on a lot of miles.
The right diesel in one of the big three, at the right price, may tempt me, but they way they are now priced, I'm not interested.
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Old 08-25-2016, 05:35 AM   #71
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"The GM 6.2 gas is rated at maybe 425 hp and 425 ft. lbs. of torque."

420hp and 460 torque. Geez guys, it would take 2 seconds to google this stuff. Again, I'm a stickler for accuracy and facts and figgers.

That's why I said maybe-
Too lazy to Google at the moment-
My point was that on paper the GM has more horsepower and torque, but in real life my Tundra feels stronger.


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Toyota Tundra 1/2 ton tow vehicle

Like rmkrum and GettinAway, I don't foresee me buying anything but a Toyota.
I occasionally think about a Lexus or Honda, but nah, I'll stick with Toyotas. The dealer is closer and they cost a little less than Lexus or Honda.
Maybe I would choose a CR-V over a RAV4 or an Odyssey over a Sienna, but I'm not sure. The Odyssey costs $2,000 more than the Sienna.
But as far as pickups go, Toyota every time.
My other car is an Avalon.
My other other car is a Nissan Pathfinder.
Having owned both Toyota and Nissan I can say Toyota is better.
Toyota is better than any other car I've owned, even Mazda back in the day, which was a very good, economical, long lasting, dependable/reliable vehicle that I wish I still had.
Toyota in my experience has been better than any GM- Buick, Chevy, GMC, Oldsmobile, Pontiac- Ford, Nissan, Mazda, or Volkswagen.
I just have never had a Chrysler/Plymouth/Dodge/Jeep or Lincoln/Mercury or Subaru. It never even crossed my mind to own one of those or visit their dealer for a test drive.
Not that it would be hard to get me out of a Toyota- it would be nearly impossible.


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Wow this thing became a love fest from those with Toyota beer googles.

To the OP yes that used Toyota sounds like a good pick for your AS. Especially if reliability is tops in buying choice and fuel economy is not so much. Some on this forum get overly zealous on the payload thing. More importantly get a no sway weight distribution hitch and scale it to get your load dispersed paying attention to not exceed your axle ratings. If you can't find your axle ratings Toyota care or whatever they call it can tell you. Beyond that if you are not over axle ratings air bags can also make your towing hauling stability etc even better. Happy Streaming.
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Beer googles?
Don't know what that is, but I love my Toyotas.


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I don't know what googles are...
Internet searches?
Maybe goggles?
Don't drink...
Don't go to bars...
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We have a new 22' Sport Airstream. We are planning on purchasing a 2007 Toyota Tundra crew cab, full bed, 5.7L, V8 engine with 155k miles as our tow vehicle.
We're wondering if anyone out there has a similar vehicle & how do you like it? Has anyone had any problems with this particular vehicle? We're interested in any feedback you might have.
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The Toyota has the capacity for towing the 22 sport. Just make sure it has the tow package. I am concerned about 155K. Get it inspected and ask questions about what it was used for. The Toyota is not a heavy duty truck and the payload is just a little over 1200 pounds.
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Where do you get 1,200 lbs. payload?
I'm thinking more like 1,550.
Google says 1,555.
Still a 1/2 ton, but a 1/2 ton with 10,400# towing capacity, albeit by the time you add tongue weight, passengers and fuel you are there.
The truck doesn't seem to know or care. The truck seems to like it.
I wouldn't sweat the 155,000 miles part, either.

This one does have the now defunct 4.7, but I'm sure the 4.6 and 5.7 will go more than 400,000 miles easily.
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10000 pounds towing and 1500 payload is enough to tow any Airstream, provided you don't want to also bring the in-laws, a motorcycle and luggage for a month. Then you might exceed those numbers.
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