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Old 03-03-2015, 09:28 PM   #1
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Toyota Tacoma towing experience

Upsizing to 23 or 25' FC from 19'. Toyota Tacoma 4l v-6 has 6300 # rated Tow capacity. Anybody tried that combo on mountain passes?
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Old 03-03-2015, 09:46 PM   #2
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I tow with a 2007 Tacoma which has the factory towing package. Just returned to VA after 3000 miles through the south via Smokey in mountains in TH. Last fall did 4000 miles which included part of Canada via the Adirondacks'. We average 13.5 MPG and pulled at 55 to 60 MPH. There were times that on very steep grades we slowed to 35 to 45 MPH and used the automatic trans to retard our down hill grade as great as 8%. We pull a 25 foot flying cloud with a weight distribution hitch. The only additional change to the truck was a Firestone air ride kit.

Hope this is of some help to you. We will head west next year. If you are ever in VA near the beach let us know.

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Old 03-04-2015, 10:44 AM   #3
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thanks, Chuck. /do you have 2.7 or 4.0 L engine? Heading to Canadian Rockies this summer. We are in foothills outside of Denver and have extensive CO long weekend experience...mostly boongdocking at NF and NP campsites; if you're out this way. We do a lot of mountain passes with 19' FC pulled buy Honda Pilot, and struggle on CO passes. Get 14mph on longer hauls (CA, AZ). But 4500# is max towing for Pilot.
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Old 03-04-2015, 11:03 AM   #4
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I have the V6 engine not sure of the HP but it is factory set up to tow 6500 pounds we stay at around 6200 pounds trailer weight and gross weight at 10,905 pounds all in.

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Old 03-04-2015, 11:52 AM   #5
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Yall must be tolerant of going up steep grades at 30 mph?? I towed my 4000 lb SOB with a 99 tacoma V6 and going up a mountain in Virginia I would be lucky to maintain half the speed limit. Thats really scary with all the 18 wheelers going 75 mph. I now tow my 28' international with a 5.7L tundra and even that cant run as well as Id like to when I hit a steep grade. If you live in Kansas thats probably fine but the mountains are a whole nother beast. And you can forget about Colorado or higher elevations.
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Old 03-04-2015, 12:25 PM   #6
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We just upgraded from a Tacamo with tow package to a Tundra with tow package. Just thought it would be very marginal in mountains. I feel much better. We will be towing a 23D.
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Old 03-04-2015, 01:07 PM   #7
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I towed a 25' Eddie Bauer with a Tacoma (with tow package) the last two summers, I reduced the weight in the trailer by running just one 20lb propane tank and always travelled pretty light (Never towed with full tanks) and just me and the wife (no kids). I live in the Canadian Rockies, camped around here a bunch and travelled out to the coast twice with the trailer, once to Vancouver island and once to the Oregon coast through the Cascades.

The Tacoma is definitely maxed out with the 25', I have the Reese straight line hitch which worked perfectly, the truck was level and never had any sway. The Tacoma made it up all the big hills but required some patience, it never overheated but I never pushed it to the absolute limit. I never put it in overdrive while towing and drove around 60mph on the flats. Some of the biggest hills required putting the transmission back in 2nd gear and just cruising up slowly with the hazards on (The semi's go just as slow up these big hills). Also used transmission to keep the speed in check on descents. Oh yeah and there are always slower people on the highways... You know the old VW Kombi's and 1960's Motorhomes with a million miles, well you need a good straight stretch of highway to try and overtake them with the Tacoma/25' combo

I think that towing the 23' with the Tacoma would be a pretty good match but you may still need some patience on the big uphills. The Tacoma surprised me at just how capable it is but I don't really recommend it for extensive travel in the mountains.

In the interest of towing more comfortably I just got a good deal on a 2014 Ram 1500 Hemi, looking forward to heading out to the Oregon coast again this Summer! Let me know if you have any other questions.

Rob.

(Edit: Forgot to mention: 2011 Tacoma TRD Sport Crew Cab with 4.0L V6, Automatic)
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Old 03-04-2015, 01:23 PM   #8
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thanks all for input; I am afraid I do most of my towing in the CO Rockies, except fro several snow bird trips to CA & AZ. I'm conflicted, as I will be using the TV as my personal around town car as well, and not excited about Tundra mileage. I'm usually not in a hurry as I just retired, but 30 mph over the passes is pretty slow. I'd like to do the 22 ft. Sport, but my wife is pushing for the 25ft FC...i'm hoping to compromise on the 23 FB, and keep the extra weight to a min while traveling. With a 6300 tow rating for the Tacoma 4.0L engine and the 23FB having base weight of 4800, I figure I can keep the traveling weight to <5500, giving me 800# cushion. I guess I'll have to do some trial runs on I70 hills with local Airstream & Toyota dealers.
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Old 03-04-2015, 01:39 PM   #9
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Although I can't comment on the Tacoma/Tundra capacity question, and although new to towing travel trailers, I learned very, very quickly, when driving truck as a younger man, that it is not all about going uphill and the speed at which you can pull a hill, albeit important, more important is how quickly you can stop that 6200/6600 lb. configuration in a panic situation. Contrary to man's popular belief; size does matter. Based on that, we just recently switched towing our 27ft with our Cayenne, which did wonderful on hills and with reserve to spare, to a 3/4 ton Dodge. Again sorry for not answering your question directly, but thought I'd chime-in. It is not only about having fun, but being safe having it...
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Old 03-04-2015, 02:08 PM   #10
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I tow my 22 International with a Tacoma. It's fine on the flat, but we're talking 40-50 max on the Cajon pass and other Steep sections. I'm patient and don't push it too hard.


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Old 03-04-2015, 02:28 PM   #11
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We tow a 19' with an 07 Tacoma V6 Double Cab with factory tow package ( rated at 6500lbs) and no other towing mods ... using an Equal-I-Zer Hitch. We have been all over the AZ, NM, SoCO, SoUT mts, and some in SoCA & Sierra Nevadas with no problems. BUT, should we ever go larger ... to say, a 23' ... with my experience, I am pretty sure I would be happier/more comfortable with a Tundra
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Old 03-04-2015, 02:47 PM   #12
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A little off the question, but I towed a 20' FC with a 6cyl Highlander through the eastern mountains and it did fine. Now I have a 27' FC and a 5.7L V-8 Sequoia TV, and are headed west in April. I'm anxious to see how we'll fare in the real mountains. I use an Equalizer WD hitch.
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torque twists the gears,, not HP.. I have seen 600 hp engines that could not pull a full sized pickup up a shallow hill with 120 ft/lbs. torque,.

The reason the turbo diesels are such hot TV is most now days pull 600 to 1200 lbs. torque.. We have a FJ Toyota with the 4L v6,, HP wise its ok but we have only pulled our 27 foot Overlander a short trip on mostly flat ground...
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Old 03-05-2015, 06:06 AM   #14
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Logrider is right, my SOB would get squirly going down mountains because the trailer weighed equal or slightly more than my TV. Its equally scary to have a trailer fish tailing. On the tacoma i used the manual brake controller all the time. Now towing a much larger trailer with the tundra and ive never had to manually brake the trailer. I add to this further that my SOB was a hilo 17', one of the easiest to tow trailers out there. Cant imagine what high winds would feel like towing a full size AS with a Tacoma.
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