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Old 04-20-2009, 10:06 PM   #29
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Miswired or just not current. Over the years the standard for pin layout has changed. When your trailer was built the center pin was the charge line, now it is the backup lights. Not only are the backup lights on all the time, but the battery may not be charging as well. Here are the two different plugs:
http://www.airstream.com/docs/7wayplug1966-81.pdf
http://www.airstream.com/docs/7waypl...84-1989-02.pdf
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Old 04-20-2009, 11:33 PM   #30
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Toyota Sequoia and Towing

Our 2008 5.7L Toyota Sequoia is a perfect companion to our 2008 Safari SE 20. We've towed over 12,000 miles and 40 camping days all over the West including the Rockies in Idaho, Wyoming, Colorado and New Mexico, the Cascades in Oregon and N. California, the Pacific coast in Oregon and California, the deserts of Arizona and metro areas of LA, Portland, Denver and Phoenix. Average towing miles per gallon is 12-13. Non-towing milage has averaged 17-21. The Sequoia mirrors are adequate. I can see along each side of the AS. We hitch up with an Equal-i-zer. The Safari 20 is rated at 5000# and Toyota's literature states that our Sequoia is rated at 10,000#. We feel this is plenty of margin.
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Old 04-21-2009, 06:21 AM   #31
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Thanks Richard! I will take a look tonight. I wired it all as color coded, but the colors were probably from different centuries.

I do like the Sequoia's reverse lights being turned on and lighting up the trailer. Maybe I can find a DC version of those lights people shine on their trees and houses.
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Old 04-21-2009, 07:44 AM   #32
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Our 2008 5.7L Toyota Sequoia is a perfect companion to our 2008 Safari SE 20. We've towed over 12,000 miles and 40 camping days all over the West including the Rockies in Idaho, Wyoming, Colorado and New Mexico, the Cascades in Oregon and N. California, the Pacific coast in Oregon and California, the deserts of Arizona and metro areas of LA, Portland, Denver and Phoenix. Average towing miles per gallon is 12-13. Non-towing milage has averaged 17-21. The Sequoia mirrors are adequate. I can see along each side of the AS. We hitch up with an Equal-i-zer. The Safari 20 is rated at 5000# and Toyota's literature states that our Sequoia is rated at 10,000#. We feel this is plenty of margin.
According to Toyota's website the Sequoia is rated to tow 7800lbs, so let's say it's about 7000lbs after fuel cargo and passengers-- which gets deducted from the overall tow rating. Per Airstream's site, the 20' units do weigh in at 5000lbs GVWR. In this example, yes, the Sequoia would be a good tow vehicle, and may be a good tow vehicle up to 23', though if you go by the wheelbase of 122" you start to get to the edge of the envelope. It's not a surprise that the mirrors are adequate with a 20' because it is not a widebody as the original poster of this thread elluded to possibly getting a 25 footer, which is the length where it starts the widebody trailers. I would guess that if you hooked to a 25er your mirror vision would be reduced, and your Sequoia at or significantly beyond it's limits (not talking vintage here, strictly late model Airstreams).
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Old 04-21-2009, 08:51 AM   #33
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Yeah I can't see a thing around my 31' in the Sequoia's mirrors. I am going to have to get tow mirrors myself
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Old 04-21-2009, 10:07 AM   #34
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Chris, you have the 1st generation Sequoia. Some things from the 2nd gen. Sequoia or Tundra may fit on your Sequoia, such as tow mirrors, may fit on yours—a long shot I guess, but worth a check. Add on tow mirrors aren't as good as OEM ones.

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Thanks Gene, but I already ordered a strap on from McKesh. People here on AFs seem really happy with them. Assuming those people aren't all McKesh employees the mirrors sound like they'll work great!
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Richard swapping those two wires did the trick. Thank you!
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According to Toyota's website the Sequoia is rated to tow 7800lbs, so let's say it's about 7000lbs after fuel cargo and passengers-- which gets deducted from the overall tow rating. Per Airstream's site, the 20' units do weigh in at 5000lbs GVWR. In this example, yes, the Sequoia would be a good tow vehicle, and may be a good tow vehicle up to 23', though if you go by the wheelbase of 122" you start to get to the edge of the envelope. It's not a surprise that the mirrors are adequate with a 20' because it is not a widebody as the original poster of this thread elluded to possibly getting a 25 footer, which is the length where it starts the widebody trailers. I would guess that if you hooked to a 25er your mirror vision would be reduced, and your Sequoia at or significantly beyond it's limits (not talking vintage here, strictly late model Airstreams).
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Silvertwinkie is correct that the SR5 model with the smaller engine (4.7L V8) is rated at 7800, but their are different models with bigger engines and mine (Limited 2WD with the 5.7 V8) is rated at 9500 (also matters if 4WD or 2WD)...I thank you all for the interesting posts...they will help tremendously when I get ready to take the plunge.
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Other than starting from red lights, I barely even knew it was back there. I still can't believe how well it went.

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Old 05-02-2009, 03:58 AM   #39
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The new TVs seem more capable than before. My old 1999 F150, long bed, 5.7L, tow package had trouble with my 25ft AS. It would hunt for gears on the slightest incline. Stability did not seem to be a problem though. Nevertheless, I switched to a silverado 2500 diesel due to the gear hunting on the F150. Get about 11mpg towing at about 65-70mph.
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Question about tow size

I have a question for you since it sounds like you know what your doing. We are considering buying a 28ft airstream International or a 25ft International FB or SS airstream towed with a new sequoia. We have 2 kids and 2 big dogs. We have been told that the 28ft would be much harder to tow and maneuver. We were also wondering if we would be a lot more limited to where we could take the trailer. What is your opinion on a 25ft vs a 28ft? Also, if you had an opinion on the floorplans for a family. Thanks


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I have the 08' Sequoia 5.7 liter and you can tow a 28 foot no problem. I pulled are friends 05 safari to Zion NP and back to colorado, over the mountains. stable, no sway, easy to stop. over the passes at 70+

We normally tow our 68' 28 foot ambassador. It's about 2000 lbs lighter dry weight of 4400 I think. I don't even know it's back most of the time.


You don't need a truck to tow big. But if you don't need the inside space, like we did, I would go with a truck. Why not.

We have kids and dog and need the space inside. have to seat more than 5 comfortable . Plus it is our everyday driver and no matter what people say. the trucks don't ride as nice.

So, People will have there input but I have towed over 3000 miles this past summer with a 28' trailer behind it and I love the way it handles.
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Aspen, check the weights on the Airstream site to make comparisons. The SS is the lightest of the group, the 25's FB's have different weights for each of the trim lines, the FC being the lighter than the International by a little bit (but the FC is quite a bit lighter on the wallet). The 28 is somewhat heavier than all of them. The Sequoia has less payload than the Tundra. I wouldn't tow anything heavier than a 25 FB with a Tundra, maybe not with a Sequoia. Payload can be the deal breaker. Everyone has a different opinion on this and you have to do the research and see what makes you comfortable.

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[QUOTE=08Safari25;669483]I felt that a towing mirror was need for the Sequoia. The mirrors on the vehicle are not out far enough to be able to see along the Airstream.

I checked with Toyota, and they told me that the Tundra pull out towing mirrors are compatible. about $500.00 not installed.

I just bought a 34' Classic with slide out 10500lb empty 1250lb tongue weight, and towed it home with my 2010 Sequoia 4x4 Limited for over 8 hours on 95 south, at highway speeds with no problems... It came with a Hensley Arrow hitch, and I will put Firestone Airbags in the back...and new tow rated tires soon.
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