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Old 01-05-2016, 11:31 AM   #1
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Toyota Land Cruiser as TV

My wife and I are thinking of purchasing our first AS but want to decide on the TV first. We prefer an SUV to a truck and our favorite SUV is the Land Cruiser. However, after reading several threads about TV's over the past couple of months, I haven't seen anyone using a Land Cruiser. With the towing package it is rated at 8,200 pounds capacity. Does anyone have a reason this vehicle would not be a good TV for a trailer with a GVWR below 6,800 pounds? Thanks
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Old 01-05-2016, 11:43 AM   #2
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I have used a 1996 LC and a 2000 LC to tow our 19' Bambi. Both had superchargers installed so power was not an issue. However, I found that the coil springs in the rear were less than desirable as a stable towing platform, so I sold the 1996 and purchased a Tundra, which is much more stable. The Tundra is much wider as well.

It can be done, but I personally would not want to tow anything larger than the 19' with the LC. Certainly not our 23'FB.

Still have the 2000 LC and occasionally tow the 19'.
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Old 01-05-2016, 11:53 AM   #3
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What is the length of the trailer you plan to tow? Land Cruiser's short wheelbase would be a limiting factor there. Also, LC's 5.7 liter engine (same as in Tundra) is a bit thirsty, and the gas tank is only 24 gallons, so you would be limited in range and need to re-fuel often. The 2016 LC has an 8 speed auto transmission (older LC's have 6 speed), and that should help the fuel economy a bit. I suggest you ask Tundra owners for feedback regarding towing performance, as the engine is the same.

LC is one of the most reliable/durable vehicles on the planet. It weighs as much as a Tundra, yet has a higher GVWR, which means it has more payload than a Tundra. Its also great off road, and very comfortable and luxurious. One of my all time favorite vehicles.
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Old 01-05-2016, 12:42 PM   #4
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23' fb

We are looking at the 23' AS because the LC wouldn't have the towing capacity for anything heavier.
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Old 01-05-2016, 12:53 PM   #5
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Not sure about newer Landcruisers, but at least until '96 you could put airbags in the rear springs to solve the soft spring issue. Parts cost is about $100. I would have no concerns about towing a 23' Airstream with my '93 Landcruiser. It's a beast.
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Old 01-05-2016, 01:56 PM   #6
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Surprised to hear a concern about the LC. It does look like a beast. Getting eight speed transmission is a real plus. Would think the 23FB would be a great match to the LC. We really like the 23 and after having Glimmer a season we are very happy with our choice. However, make sure the 23 is the right size and layout for you. The 25 is a happier choice for many and some keep moving on up. On the other side of the AS world, the 22 sport is lighter, narrower and a bit easier on the pocket book if two axles is not a mandatory consideration. Best to do your research, get it right the first time. Twoftitis seems to be a common virus and you will be happier to give it a pass.

Good luck and keep posting/reading. Pat
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Old 01-05-2016, 06:25 PM   #7
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I tow my 30' Flying Cloud with my 2006 LC and love it.

I installed a ProPride hitch because of the shorter wheelbase and experience with other trailers (boats). I drop out overdrive to minimize shifting and keep my top speed to 65 MPH. Fuel economy is varied between 8.6 and 9.9 mpg. Towing and maneuvering is great.

I tow about 5k miles per year. If I towed significantly more I would likely switch to a smaller trailer.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

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A friend of mine, and frequent camping buddy, tows his SOB with a 2008 LC and has only good things to report. I haven't driven his vehicle with the trailer in tow, so no first hand experience.
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Your desired combination with a 23' would work just fine, and IMO would be a conservative setup for the heavy duty Land Cruiser.

Here's my setup with an '06 Land Cruiser and a 23D Airstream. On 33" AT tires no less. Quiet and a relaxed plush ride.



Imminently stable with just a simple Anderson hitch. I towed this setup all over the California Pacific Coast Highway along Big Sur. For those unfamiliar with that route, it's 80+ miles of endless switchbacks with serious grades in parts. Not a hint of instability. Even in the very long climbs and descents at fwy speeds, it's again very stable.

I would not hesitate to tow more with mine. A 200-series would handle this with ease with the larger motor.

The hydraulic suspension (AHC) would be a great option for you to consider.
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TXWind, any photos to share? I'd love to see your setup.
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Back during the bush tax incentives they would let you write off a vehicle over 6000 lbs. at that time I check into whether the Toyota weighed enough and it did not. So I bought a jeep commander. I also saw that the Volkswagen Tuareg was over 6k too. So I'm guessing the Toyota might not weigh enough if your pulling a long camper.
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Seems like it would be about the same as towing with a Sequoia with independent rear suspension.
A Tundra CrewMax with a cap and solid rear axle would be a little better.
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For what it's worth:
I towed a 6000 lb. Gross wt. Hi'Lo with a six cyl. Toyota 4-Runner for six years, out to the Maritime and through hilly Vermont in a heat wave.
It handled the tow for over six years quite well.
Had to trade it in for a Ford F-150 when I bought an Airstream.
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When we were doing our research, everyone advised that, if we have option, pick the RV first and then the TV.
Trying to make do with an RV that is not all you find you want or need will end up being an expensive exercise in changing both units.
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