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Old 06-23-2013, 09:16 AM   #1
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Toyota 4runner V8 vs 78 23ft Safari

We are planning a 2000 mile round trip to Yosemite in a couple weeks pulling a 23ft 1978 Safari with a 2005 Toyota 4runner limited edition 4x4 V8. Our usual TV is a 2007 Tundra sr5 double cab (not Crew max)but my wife hates the uncomfortable back seat and asked if we can take her 4 runner. I've done some research and believe the 4runner is more than capable but would love to hear from those who use similar TV and trailer.
Trailer dry weight is 3905lbs
4 runner towing capacity shows 7000 lbs
There will be 4 of us for a combined passenger weight of 550lbs
I'll be using a WD hitch and sway bar.

Should I have any concerns?
Thanks for your input.

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Old 06-23-2013, 12:24 PM   #2
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Your wife is wise but will most likely have a tough time having her 4Runner returned to her following the trip. Jim

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Old 06-23-2013, 02:08 PM   #3
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You will feel more sidewinds and semi's pushing as they pass which may be quite uncomfortable, and the 4.7 V8 will seem underpowered compared to the Tundra 5.7. The brakes will not be as good as the Tundra. Maybe plan on keeping speeds down, say 55 mph on calm days, less if it's windy.

I think the Tundra will be far more comfortable for everyone.

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Old 06-23-2013, 02:18 PM   #4
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There are a number of notes in the forums about the 4 Runners and their inherent stability issues when used as a TV. Seems quite a few mods are required to get them up to par. Apparently the tow rating is a bit of a stretch.
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Old 06-23-2013, 02:33 PM   #5
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Is trading the Double Cab for a Crewmax an option? Love the limousine size back seat and huge wide opening rear doors of the Crewmax.
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Old 06-23-2013, 04:46 PM   #6
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I don't think you will have a problem.
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Old 06-23-2013, 05:03 PM   #7
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Hook it up and try it on a test pull a week in advance. If it doesn't feel good to you, you'll know what to do.
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Old 06-23-2013, 05:29 PM   #8
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I regret not getting the Crewmax back when I bought the Tundra, I figured the back seat would be plenty big as my wife's 5ft 1 and the kids were only 10 and 11. Now the kids are 15 and 16 and they're giants compared to the wife. I know the Tundra will handle the trailer much better but was hoping the 4 runner would be a sufficient TV.
I'm getting some Michelins installed tomorrow on the trailer so I'll pull the trailer over to Discount tires to see how it feels.
Thanks for the input.
PS anyone have input on Yosemite?
How about Pismo beach Hearst castle camping?
Just wondering about specific sites that people prefer.
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Old 06-23-2013, 06:14 PM   #9
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I use a 6 cyl 4 runner to tow an Argosy that weighs in at 3800.
I've towed over mtn's and on flats up to 70 mph without any problems at all.
Only a sway control is used not an equalizer hitch and I've never felt uncomfortable or unsafe. Generally most folks here ere on the side of overkill, lots of it. You'll be fine.

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