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Old 02-12-2015, 04:15 PM   #15
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I towed a 3600# race car with tools and spares using a U Haul tandem axle trailer
with bias tires halfway across the country with a V8 Cayenne. Aside from the gas mileage Porsche has engineered the best tow vehicle made. You can pitch it sideways at 60mph and it will correct itself without blinking. Try that with a big Chevy or Ford. Lots of You Tube videos of this as well. I would imagine the VW sister or and or the diesel would be even better. Anyone that has ever towed a U Haul trailer knows what crap they are. They do not want to follow you home.
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Old 02-12-2015, 05:38 PM   #16
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Not sure it will be helpful, but We began towing our 23D wit's a 2010 land rover and after two trips ended up getting a f-150. We found the combination of the air suspension and the short wheelbase to be not ideal. With the truck I almost forget the trailer is back there, while with he Land Rover I felt every bump, gust of wind and passing semi.
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Old 02-12-2015, 06:23 PM   #17
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I tow my 1997 30 Classic with a 2008 ML320 CDI diesel. I also considered the VW, BMW, and Porsche diesels. They all use the same 3.0L twin turbo six. I chose the ML as we are long time Mercedes owners. These are all great as tow vehicles, but they all have weak hitches. Check out CanAm RV website for info on how Andy Thompson beefs up these hitches to make them safe for towing Airstreams. Couple that with a quality hitch (I use a Hensley Arrow), and you can tow almost anything Airstream builds.
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Didn't mean to exclude the Range Rover in my last comment. I've wondered about them as well. CanAm RV can probably give you an expert opinion on the RR and back it up with real life examples. BTW, I am not an employee - just a very satisfied customer.
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Old 02-12-2015, 07:11 PM   #19
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I have towed my 27fb with a 2011 Range Rover about 3800 miles so far with no problems. Very smooth plenty of power,good breaking and as always felt very stable except for the time when we encountered 25 mile an hour direct cross winds coming across the Mohave Desert had to slow down to under 50.
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Old 02-12-2015, 10:34 PM   #20
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Somebody had a comment about the wheelbase of the Range Rover. Great point there. They do have a long wheel base model but no desire to buy that.

And thank you for the first hand feedback, whomever gave it. (Sorry, I'm using the App and can't see names once I start typing!)

My Chevy Avalanche does great with my Airstream but the 5.3L does lack the power for the big hills.
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Old 02-12-2015, 11:27 PM   #21
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We've been towing our '17 Casitas with our Tahoe from 2001 to 2005 until we got our '05 Avalanche and we used it until 2011 and sold it in Aug 2012. Then back to the Tahoe 2012 for a western states 2 month tour. In Sept 2012 we bought a '69 Tradewind.

Our plan was to use our '98 Tahoe 2 door 2wd to tow our Airstream.

Well after a few tows I felt a bit of a wiggle and said to myself "Doooo I should have kept the Avalanche". Its longer wheelbase was a better match for the Tradewind.

chaseav, what gear ratio does your Avalanche have ?

Our's had a 4.10 , I would most likely would have changed it for the Tradewind to a 4.30 gear set. This can be done for around $ 500 - $ 800 and get a Predator ($ 400)to reflash the computer.

But alas the Avalanche was sold so we bought a Tundra.

The longer wheelbase makes a lot of difference in stability .
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Old 02-13-2015, 12:54 AM   #22
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You can see how wheelbase makes a difference in "wiggle" (sway) in Glenritas photos. The sway felt at the tow vehicle steering is caused by the trailer pushing sideways on the truck's receiver ball.

A shorter distance from the ball to the truck's rear axle, the shorter the lever to push sideways on the receiver, less sway. The longer the wheelbase, the greater resistance to sideways push on the ball, less sway.

If the truck's tires or suspension allow sideways movement, the sideways push will be greater. Stiffer or shorter sidewall tires will have less sideways movement, less sway.

Install a Hensley/ProPride hitch and the sideways push (sway) is projected forward from the hitch ball to the truck's rear axle (which effectively becomes the trailer pivot point similar to a fifth wheel trailer), and there is no leverage forward to the truck's steering axle. Any sway tendency is resisted by the truck's rear axle and it never happens.

When considering a tow vehicle, there's more to sway resistance than wheelbase length.
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Old 02-13-2015, 09:07 AM   #23
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I understand the OP's want of a do it all vehicle, so a pick up is not exactly the vehicle for him .
He seems to want a SUV of some sort .

His current Avalanche seems to be not quite up to the task power wise, thus my suggestion of changing the rear gear ratio.

One thing I did to our Avalanche the made it even better was to add a GearVendors unit.
It split the gears down to a 500 RPM drop from 1000 RPM between gears and made finding just the right gear in mountain towing possible .

I did a lot of 2nd over on mountain roads, and generally towed in 3rd over on the highway.

My point of showing our different Tow Vehicles and trailers is to see the relationship of the TV axles and trailer axles and the leverage the trailer can impose on the TV.

Since I don't use or want to use a WDH or sway control I opted for a longer wheel base.
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Hope you get a Range Rover. I tow a 25fb Int with a full size 2011 RR supercharged and have now changed to a 2014 RR supercharged and love towing with it. its the best i have ever towed with the advanced trailer sway control works great plus the camera system has hitch veiw & trailer backing view. I have the Tuson Rv sway control on the trailer that also works great, after a lot of research i use a std hitch no load bars or mechanical sway system the air springs work very well.
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Glenritas, I have the 3.73 rear end. According to my feature code anyway. I bought her (the Avalanche) new in 2007 and absolutely love it. The family plan is to never sell it but with the new addition to the family (the Airstream) I can definitely see the need to get a bigger engine. Living in the South though, most of my towing does not involve mountains so the thought of getting a pickup just for towing seems pointless. We head north for the summer though through the Blue Ridge Mtns which will definitely require more power. I've altered the route to an easier one with less gradient but it's going to add 1.5-2 hrs to the trip. (Unacceptable!) <--- sarcasm.

The Range Rover would be a best of both worlds scenario where I get a tow vehicle and a fancy schmancy SUV to drive around for 95% of the miles put on it. Truth be told, my wife wants one so either way it's probably going to happen! The question is whether or not I can tow with it.
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Rick Stream, so you're saying you tow my exact trailer now with a Range Rover? Any sway issues? Sounds like no. What kind of terrain? How is the hitch weight? Can you lock out the airbag suspension?
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* and you don't have any weight distributing hitch?
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