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05-10-2021, 09:21 AM
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#201
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2 Rivet Member
2019 25' Flying Cloud
Walnut Creek
, California
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 81
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Originally Posted by ebogiz
Just returned from Florida to NY towing our 2021 23' Globetrotter with our 2008 Range Rover HSE. Round trip was 3,000 miles. The Rover performed incredibly well. Weight distribution system and sway bar is not recommended since it can create an issue with the Rover's air suspension system so I towed without it. Kept my speed between 60 to 65mph and when approached 70mph would experience so sway issue so had to back off on speed. If you have anymore questions or need more input don't hesitate to ask.
By the way the max. tow capacity on our Rover is 7700 lbs. with a tongue weight of 770. The 23' Globetrotter is the maximum size AS the Rover can handle.
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Thanks for sharing your experience. I am curious as to which hitch do you use? Also, have you ever taken the rig to the CAT Scale? I would be curious to see the numbers with a 23FB especially with non-WD hitch. Are you able to stay within the rear GAVW rating? It certainly seems possible in theory, given the low tongue weight if the 23FB. We are willing to downsize to 23FB if the RR+23FB setup would work better.
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2019 25FB Flying Cloud
2021 Range Rover HSE
2019 RAM 2500 Hemi
2012 Mercedes GL450
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05-11-2021, 07:19 AM
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#202
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
2019 27' Tommy Bahama
London
, Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,347
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Hi Ashar
We have setup many RR and I can send you the detail of how to do it correctly. It is almost impossible to get a good setup with air suspension with the Equalizer as you cannot fine tune the weight transfer enough. As well my personal tow vehicle for the last 14 years have been Jaguar XJ's which have the same suspension with a tighter tune.
If you like send me an email andy@canamrv.ca and I can send the information. There is a video on our website as well that goes over the process with a spring vehicle. With air suspension it is similar but changes slightly.
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Andrew Thomson London, Ontario
"One test is worth a thousand expert opinions." Tex Johnston, Boeing 707 test pilot
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05-11-2021, 07:42 AM
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#203
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
2019 27' Tommy Bahama
London
, Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,347
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I forgot the link to the hitch setup video. It's the first one on this page.
Andy
https://www.canamrv.ca/towing-expertise/videos/
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Andrew Thomson London, Ontario
"One test is worth a thousand expert opinions." Tex Johnston, Boeing 707 test pilot
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05-11-2021, 10:19 AM
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#204
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2 Rivet Member
2019 25' Flying Cloud
Walnut Creek
, California
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 81
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Originally Posted by Andrew T
Hi Ashar
We have setup many RR and I can send you the detail of how to do it correctly. It is almost impossible to get a good setup with air suspension with the Equalizer as you cannot fine tune the weight transfer enough. As well my personal tow vehicle for the last 14 years have been Jaguar XJ's which have the same suspension with a tighter tune.
If you like send me an email andy@canamrv.ca and I can send the information. There is a video on our website as well that goes over the process with a spring vehicle. With air suspension it is similar but changes slightly.
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Thanks Andy! I just sent you an email with all the details. I greatly appreciate your help.
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2019 25FB Flying Cloud
2021 Range Rover HSE
2019 RAM 2500 Hemi
2012 Mercedes GL450
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05-17-2021, 02:06 AM
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#205
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2 Rivet Member
2017 23' International
Currently Looking...
Winter Park
, Florida
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 45
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I found these Sway Bracket Jackets that are designed to reduce / eliminate the noise created by wear on the Equal-i-zer WD hitches:
https://www.equalizerhitch.com/store...et-jacket-pair
I will give them a try on my next trip.
- Mike
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05-18-2021, 08:30 PM
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#206
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2 Rivet Member
2019 25' Flying Cloud
Walnut Creek
, California
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 81
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Originally Posted by mwodzinski
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Yes, I have been using these for a couple of years, these work great, but only to certain extent.
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2021 Range Rover HSE
2019 RAM 2500 Hemi
2012 Mercedes GL450
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09-06-2021, 08:27 AM
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New Member
Currently Looking...
Dallas
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2021
Posts: 2
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recently purchased a '22 Disco (360 R-Dynamic) and am new to all of this. We're generally interested in a 25FB but also are very confused over the tongue weight limitations (is it 330, 770, 820?) - a local AS dealer strongly recommended a Blue Ox WD hitch, but also seeing some debate over that in these forums.
so any guidance and recommendations are appreciated.
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09-06-2021, 08:38 AM
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#208
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3 Rivet Member
2018 23' Flying Cloud
Park City
, Utah
Join Date: Jul 2020
Posts: 223
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlacMacJac
recently purchased a '22 Disco (360 R-Dynamic) and am new to all of this. We're generally interested in a 25FB but also are very confused over the tongue weight limitations (is it 330, 770, 820?) - a local AS dealer strongly recommended a Blue Ox WD hitch, but also seeing some debate over that in these forums.
so any guidance and recommendations are appreciated.
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We have a 2019 RR Sport TD6. I did a ton of research and ended up with the Pro-Pride 3P hitch, which I can't recommend enough. It's expensive, but worth it IMO, especially with a tow vehicle like a Range Rover or a Discovery that sits lower in the rear.
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09-06-2021, 01:56 PM
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Site Team
2017 30' International
Broomfield
, Colorado
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 3,555
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlacMacJac;
recently purchased a '22 Disco (360 R-Dynamic) and am new to all of this. We're generally interested in a 25FB but also are very confused over the tongue weight limitations (is it 330, 770, 820?) - a local AS dealer strongly recommended a Blue Ox WD hitch, but also seeing some debate over that in these forums.
so any guidance and recommendations are appreciated.
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25FB has ~1000lb tongue weight in reality - too much for the receiver on your disco. Your dealer apparently only cares about selling you a trailer, not about your safety. I’d look at a 23 or under.
Look on the forum there have been accounts of receiver failure on discos (albeit LR3/4).
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09-06-2021, 02:12 PM
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#210
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2 Rivet Member
2023 23' Flying Cloud
Branson West
, Missouri
Join Date: May 2021
Posts: 20
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As a recovering Land Rover owner, are you sure you didn't mean "towing a Land Rover"? As delicate as these are mechanically and expensive to fix, there is no way I'd want the headaches the added stress of towing will do to an already trouble-prone vehicle. Is it too late to trade it for a Toyota Land Cruiser or Sequoia? Good luck. I was so tired of running mine to the dealer every other month..... happy day when I was able to unload it....
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09-06-2021, 04:26 PM
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#211
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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09-06-2021, 05:11 PM
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#212
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New Member
Currently Looking...
Dallas
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Join Date: Sep 2021
Posts: 2
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wulfraat
25FB has ~1000lb tongue weight in reality - too much for the receiver on your disco. Your dealer apparently only cares about selling you a trailer, not about your safety. I’d look at a 23 or under.
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tbf, the dealer did not specifically recommend the WD hitch for any specific model.
the AS documentation says a the various 25FB differ in hitch weight, but I've seen none that exceed 900 - can you please expound on your "~1K in reality"? If there's additional info I should know, I'd could use it. thanks.
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09-06-2021, 05:36 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Welcome Aboard 👍
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlacMacJac
tbf, the dealer did not specifically recommend the WD hitch for any specific model.
the AS documentation says a the various 25FB differ in hitch weight, but I've seen none that exceed 900 - can you please expound on your "~1K in reality"? If there's additional info I should know, I'd could use it. thanks.
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The google has your answer....
Your welcome...
Bob
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09-07-2021, 01:54 AM
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#214
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2 Rivet Member
2019 25' Flying Cloud
Walnut Creek
, California
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 81
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlacMacJac
recently purchased a '22 Disco (360 R-Dynamic) and am new to all of this. We're generally interested in a 25FB but also are very confused over the tongue weight limitations (is it 330, 770, 820?) - a local AS dealer strongly recommended a Blue Ox WD hitch, but also seeing some debate over that in these forums.
so any guidance and recommendations are appreciated.
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Here's a screenshot from Range Rover's website, so it's 770# for trailers with brakes. We have a 2021 RR HSE Diesel, and we currently tow a 25FB with it. I have done a few posts on this topic, the gist is that it can be done, but it can get tiring. You have to fine tune your hitch, watch how you load your trailer, keep your tanks empty, and so on. We are using EAZ Elite Hitch on Andy's(CanAm) recommendation. It's doing a great job so far. I go to CAT Scales before every trip, and I have managed to stay within specs for GVWR and GAWR, but I don't have a 1000# buffer in GVWR and GAWR like you could get with a 3/4 ton. Feel free to DM me if you have any specific questions.
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2021 Range Rover HSE
2019 RAM 2500 Hemi
2012 Mercedes GL450
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09-07-2021, 09:22 AM
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#215
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4 Rivet Member
2015 30' Classic
Sherwood
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 479
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlacMacJac
recently purchased a '22 Disco (360 R-Dynamic) and am new to all of this. We're generally interested in a 25FB but also are very confused over the tongue weight limitations (is it 330, 770, 820?) - a local AS dealer strongly recommended a Blue Ox WD hitch, but also seeing some debate over that in these forums.
so any guidance and recommendations are appreciated.
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We towed a 25 FB 2014 International Serenity with a 2008 Range Rover HSE for two years with 833 lbs tongue weight and Blue Ox with 1,000 lbs bars. The hitch on the RR is a Westfalia with a rating of 777 lbs. The Rover handled it fine as long as you accept that you will be taking a long uphill grade in 5th or 4th gear and downhill in the rain with curves can be a bit white knuckle as you can feel the AS pushing you around a bit. Also, I began to sense the transmission shifting a bit differently when not under load. We ended up upgrading to an F350 diesel. We still have the Rover with 136K miles and the only repairs have been replacing the suspension compressor, one leveling sensor and driver's seat heating/cooling module. Still love the RR. Good luck.
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Sold: 2014 25FB International Serenity
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09-08-2021, 05:05 AM
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#216
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Rivet Master
2015 25' FB International
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 572
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlacMacJac
recently purchased a '22 Disco (360 R-Dynamic) and am new to all of this. We're generally interested in a 25FB but also are very confused over the tongue weight limitations (is it 330, 770, 820?) - a local AS dealer strongly recommended a Blue Ox WD hitch, but also seeing some debate over that in these forums.
so any guidance and recommendations are appreciated.
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I own a 2020 LR Disco with gas engine and a International Signature 25FB (for sale by the way!) and would NOT tow with it. I consider by tongue weight capacity to be 820 but getting there with the 25FB would require removal of one of the two propane tanks. Not a big deal. If I were able to get an actual tongue weight measurement, I might get okay with it, but have not way to do that. The LR Disco is an amazing vehicle but it is NOT overpowered and going up hills… that’s a lot to ask.
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