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12-01-2016, 09:26 AM
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1 Rivet Member
2013 25' International
Tierra Verde
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 8
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Towing with a Tundra
Is there anybody out there towing a 2010 30 Classic with a Toyota Tundra 5,7 Tow 4.10 Rear axle.
Love the truck just looking for real world experience.
Thanks for any info.
Silverbuckle
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12-01-2016, 11:05 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
Eugene
, Oregon
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 446
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I tow a 2015 25FB Flying Cloud with a heavier tongue weight most likely than your trailer (once at 1060lbs) and a trailer weight once at 6100lbs. Tow with a 2014 Tundra Crew Max, 4x4, 1794 edition, 5.7L. Does fine at 9000+ elevation. On descents definitely need to use low gear (used first gear once!) and take it easy as the brakes, while adequate, well....they ain't air brakes!
Search "AirForums.com Tundra 30" for lots of past info. Here's one link: http://www.airforums.com/forums/f463...-46700-56.html
Take care.
Chris
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12-01-2016, 07:53 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2013 25' International
Tierra Verde
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 8
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Tundra Towing
Thanks for your reply....The Classic is 10K gvwr. Your right the tongue about the same. Plan on spending most time in and near the Rockies so the 9000 Ft will be seen quite often.
Thanks
Silverbuckle
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12-02-2016, 02:47 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
Eugene
, Oregon
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 446
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If you will be towing at elevation frequently, and can afford it, I would consider a 3/4 ton pickup which you can get with far better engine braking ability than our Toyota Tundras have. You would also have, if equipped correctly, far more payload.
I'm surprised others haven't chimed in yet who have Tundras and tow Classics and know more than I do!
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12-02-2016, 03:20 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2012 25' FB Flying Cloud
Parker
, Colorado
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 131
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My Tundra tows a 25FB and I live in Colorado. Trailer is smaller than yours, and while I love the truck, going downhill the brakes aren't the best. I upgraded the rotors to the most heavy duty ones Brakes Plus uses, and that made a huge difference. I wouldn't tow a 30ft without them.
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2012 Toyota Tundra 5.7L V8
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12-02-2016, 09:29 PM
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4 Rivet Member
Dayton
, OH, 2017 33' Classic 8,561 dry
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 252
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As with any gasser pulling a 30' Classic but especially the Tundra.. Just don't stray to far from the gas station. 😄 Just humor Tundra fans.
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12-02-2016, 09:49 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2008 28' International
Happy Valley
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 270
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mfrez
My Tundra tows a 25FB and I live in Colorado. Trailer is smaller than yours, and while I love the truck, going downhill the brakes aren't the best. I upgraded the rotors to the most heavy duty ones Brakes Plus uses, and that made a huge difference. I wouldn't tow a 30ft without them.
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Agree with mfrez reference the Tundra brakes. I tow a 28' International with 1000lb tongue weight & family of four. I have put on over 10,000 miles in over 30 states. I have had no issues with the power or passes under 9% grade. But, one trip up/down the 10% grade into Jackson Hole and I felt like I needed more truck. I was doing 30mph at the peak with the pedal to the floor and heated up the brakes on the way down in second gear with braking.
If I were towing a 30', no question that I would be driving a 3/4 ton deisel for #1 exhaust braking and #2 power #3 payload.
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12-03-2016, 12:53 AM
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4 Rivet Member
Vintage Kin Owner
St. Louis
, Missouri
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 415
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We pull a 10K GVWR 34’ Avion with a ‘08 Sequoia. This year we traveled about 9,000 miles in 19 states. Not sure we went on any 9% grades, but we did travel all over Wyoming, Montana, Utah, Idaho, Oregon,... Zero complaints.
Not sure why others are commenting on the brakes. As long as my trailer brakes are adjusted properly and I take down hills in the correct gear, I had no issues with the brakes at all.
The most annoying aspect of pulling a trailer with a Tundra/Sequoia is all the simple minded guys who think you’re driving a Corolla when they see the Toyota name badge. I can’t count the times guys have walked up to me at the gas pump with a look of disbelief or bewilderment not believing my truck can pull more than a rowboat. There’s a bunch of that breed here on the forum too. There’s no point arguing with them; no amount of logic will change their minds. When they approach at the gas pump to question your sanity, just assure them that you have a monster engine under the hood. It seems to be the only language they understand.
Good luck with your Tundra! You have a great truck that will serve you well.
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1989 Avion 34VB
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12-03-2016, 06:33 AM
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Rivet Master
2008 25' Classic
Full Time
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,309
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I had a 2010 Tundra DC SR5 2x4. I towed two long trips with my 2008 Classic 25fb. The first was from DFW to Florida. It was fine. However the second trip from Missouri to Utah and steep mountain roads I found the brakes would start to shudder if I needed to apply despite shifting down gears. I didn't find tow haul worked all that well. After that trip I decided to investigate other tow vehicles and decided on a 2015 Ram 4x4 Cummins Crew Cab.
The tow haul and integrated brake controller works much better than the Tundras tow haul and the 3rd party Prodigy P2 controller. The diesel exhaust brake is great. I hardly have to touch the brakes now, tow haul shifts down automatically and keeps the speed in check along with the exhaust brake.
We live in an area with a lot of hills and our future travels will take us out West so we decided this route.
Kelvin
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2008 Classic 25fb "Silver Mistress"
2015 Ram 2500 6.7L Cummins. Crew Cab, 4x4, Silver
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12-03-2016, 09:48 AM
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Rivet Master
2008 22' Safari
Spicewood (W of Austin)
, Texas
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 2,919
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All the RAMs since 2010 have an excellent Tow/Haul system, even on the gasoline models.
My 2012 in Tow/Haul mode effectively uses engine-braking to keep speeds under control even in downhill conditions.
I'm not trying to start a Chevy/Ford argument. I'm just saying that the Ram series are excellent in this regard.
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12-03-2016, 10:50 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
Eugene
, Oregon
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 446
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VernDiesel
As with any gasser pulling a 30' Classic but especially the Tundra.. Just don't stray to far from the gas station. 😄 Just humor Tundra fans.
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Humor taken! And so true !
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12-03-2016, 11:02 AM
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Journeyman
2016 25' International
Amherst
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 956
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Meeks
Humor taken! And so true !
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Tundra owner here. I concur.
The tank is about the size of coke bottle as near as I can tell!
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12-03-2016, 11:52 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2008 28' International
Palm Springs
, California
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 35
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We tow our 2008 International 28 with a 2013 Tundra Crewmax 2WD and would agree with the need to refuel often. Otherwise, we've been all over, flatland and mountains and have no complaints. We use an Equalizer with an Airsafe hitch setup.
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2008 Intl 28 CCD
2018 Toyota Land Cruiser
"You are only young once, but you can stay immature indefinitely' - Ogden Nash
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12-03-2016, 12:35 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
Eugene
, Oregon
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 446
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alluminati
We pull a 10K GVWR 34’ Avion with a ‘08 Sequoia. This year we traveled about 9,000 miles in 19 states. Not sure we went on any 9% grades, but we did travel all over Wyoming, Montana, Utah, Idaho, Oregon,... Zero complaints.
Not sure why others are commenting on the brakes. As long as my trailer brakes are adjusted properly and I take down hills in the correct gear, I had no issues with the brakes at all.
The most annoying aspect of pulling a trailer with a Tundra/Sequoia is all the simple minded guys who think you’re driving a Corolla when they see the Toyota name badge. I can’t count the times guys have walked up to me at the gas pump with a look of disbelief or bewilderment not believing my truck can pull more than a rowboat. There’s a bunch of that breed here on the forum too. There’s no point arguing with them; no amount of logic will change their minds. When they approach at the gas pump to question your sanity, just assure them that you have a monster engine under the hood. It seems to be the only language they understand.
Good luck with your Tundra! You have a great truck that will serve you well.
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This is great to hear! I wonder why I and others have issues on hills sometimes. I really enjoy most everything about the Tundra and have no plans to upgrade to a different vehicle as large descents are not an every day experience in our travels though we certainly experience plenty of them traveling only in the west. I downshift at the top of hills and a couple of times have had to use first gear to descend at 30mph in a safe manner. The brakes will vibrate if used too much (and I'm careful to use them minimally because of this).
I love the Tundra in all other ways but these have been my experiences. I really appreciate everyone sharing what towing with their Tundras is like!
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12-03-2016, 01:25 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
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I tow a 2013 Classic 30 with a 2007 Tundra 5.7.
I thought the gear ratios were 4:30.
Anyway, the Tundra with Equal-i-zer hitch does a great job towing my Classic 30.
If I ever get another truck, it will be another Tundra.
Some on this forum and others have dubbed me Mr. Toyota. I ain't mad at 'em. I love my truck.
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2007 Silver Toyota Tundra Crew Max Limited 5.7 iForce
2006 Vivid Black Harley-Davidson Road King Classic
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12-03-2016, 01:27 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2009 34' Panamerica
2008 22' Safari
Metro Detroit Area & Metro Dallas Area
, Michigan & Texas
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 222
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Tundra & 34' Panamerica
We tow our bigger unit with a 2010 Tundra 5.7L Limited (short bed). It was setup with WD hitch & double swaybars. Also uses brake controls to the trailer brake. CanAm RV (CAN) did a excellent job! Before and after is AMAZING! Tows very good in many situations. Better tires were also installed; factory issued don't offer good ride due to softness (wear faster). Talk to Andy (the owner) for guidance.
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12-03-2016, 01:29 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1994 30' Excella
Kiefer
, Oklahoma
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 89
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What are you towing your '04 Airstream Classic with now?
Do you plan to upgrade to an '10 Airstream Classic?
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12-03-2016, 01:40 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 31' Classic
billings
, Montana
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 3,570
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverbuckle
Is there anybody out there towing a 2010 30 Classic with a Toyota Tundra 5,7 Tow 4.10 Rear axle.
Love the truck just looking for real world experience.
Thanks for any info.
Silverbuckle
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1/2 ton anything with a 30-31 ' is going to be light, best with a 3/4 ton...
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12-03-2016, 01:57 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2004 22' Safari
Albuquerque
, New Mexico
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 374
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Quote:
Originally Posted by malinois38
Agree with mfrez reference the Tundra brakes. I tow a 28' International with 1000lb tongue weight & family of four. I have put on over 10,000 miles in over 30 states. I have had no issues with the power or passes under 9% grade. But, one trip up/down the 10% grade into Jackson Hole and I felt like I needed more truck. I was doing 30mph at the peak with the pedal to the floor and heated up the brakes on the way down in second gear with braking.
If I were towing a 30', no question that I would be driving a 3/4 ton deisel for #1 exhaust braking and #2 power #3 payload.
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I love my Tundra, but I have a 22 Foot Safari. I have to believe as much as I like the truck, if I were towing a 30 foot rig, I would have at least a 3/4 ton diesel truck. My 2014 Limited Double cab 5.7 will tow the pants off any of the smaller rigs, and the newer ones have a much bigger gas tank now. Unless you are thinking of downsizing to a smaller trailer so you will fit in more places, I can't imagine not going with a bigger truck.
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