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Old 07-17-2011, 06:37 PM   #71
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We know an 18 year old who just took his GED exam to get his high school requirement behind him. We asked him how he did, and he was astounded at how easy it was. He said one of the hardest math questions on it was a simple x,y graph, and no data of any kind. The instructions were to place a single point on the graph to complete a square.

I seem to recall having to solve a few equations, with a pencil and slide rule, and then plot a number of points on a graph.

Our future is in serious trouble.
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Old 07-18-2011, 09:41 AM   #72
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TOO competent? I am having a totally different experience. I think I must be turning into one of those cranky old farts or something, but I am finding people in general are far less competent in their occupations than they were thirty years ago. I am absolutely sure that I got a far better education, for example, in the Texas public school system than any of our five sons have gotten in a combination of Massachusetts and New Jersey schools. These days, all a kid needs to do is show up for the minimum legal number of days, and he graduates feeling good about himself.

He can't work a simple ratio problem with a pencil and paper, but his telephone will do it for him. A telephone designed and built on the other side of the world, mind you.
Well since everyone here is being quick to blame it on something else, I would like to play Devil's Advocate and blame it on ourselves. Could it not be that it is the fault of the previous generation for not providing better values and character development to today's children? Everyone always talks about how they were shaped by their parents, and how if it wasn't for their father/mother they would have been lost in life, yada, yada, yada. However in today's day and age, we let ourselves become distracted and absorbed into the fancy technology of television. How much time of the day did everyone let their children watch TV on average, how much time on videogames? When were they allowed to buy cellphones? How much did everyone work while they were growing up?

We are all addicts to our jobs, and we all end up getting sucked in to an unhealthy level in one way or another, but to me, it is still our faults. We have no one to blame but ourselves.

Then again, I'm not reminiscing about the good ol' days because I actually like the modern world, but I'm just playing the debate.
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Attention deficit disorder seems to be running rampant as well.

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Tow vehicle liability coverage

You might want to check out the case law in your state and with your insurance company if you modify the vehicle or its accessories (i.e. hitch equipment) or intentionally exceed any recommended vehicle specs.

I believe you will find in most states that you are on your own if you cause harm to yourself or others.

Not an advocate of torts one way or the other, but thats just the way it is.
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Are there still some conceivable laws governing every aspect of living in the USA that haven't been passed yet?
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I miss the 70's.....haven't quite been "myself" since K.C. & the Sunshine Band broke up.
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Old 07-19-2011, 12:50 PM   #77
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i hear ya. I don't think life has been the same since Roy Orbison died.
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You might want to check out the case law in your state and with your insurance company if you modify the vehicle or its accessories (i.e. hitch equipment) or intentionally exceed any recommended vehicle specs.

I believe you will find in most states that you are on your own if you cause harm to yourself or others.
Here's my take on the legal issues:

- Tow ratings aren't legal standards. They're suggestions from the manufacturers. The government has nothing to do with them.

- If I crash and cause an injury, something bad happened to cause that. I'd be in trouble due to the root cause of the crash, nevermind the hitch.

- If I break the law (say I was speeding) and crashed, my insurance company pays out. They might not renew me, but they pay out. So if I crash with towing a trailer with a Jetta, which isn't even technically breaking the law, they should still pay.

Last time I read my auto policy, there wasn't any provision saying that if I tow an overweight trailer or modify my car, I'm not covered. Those modifications might not be covered (they don't pay to replace snazzy $2000 aftermarket wheels unless I get a rider), but my liability coverage isn't cancelled. Also there are personal umbrella liability policies that add more coverage.

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Old 07-19-2011, 01:32 PM   #79
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There's always a self-appointed lawyer in the discussion to remind us not to do anything outside the box.

I like my Jetta TDI manual trans and wish we had it on the long stays away from home. It's stability and torque are impressive, and it's aerodynamic and relatively light weight.

The question I have is, would the gearboxes hold up over the long-term, such as described in the opening post?

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and does hanging fuzzy dice from the rearview mirror constitute an unapproved aftermarket add-on that invalidates your liability insurance by obstructing your view out the front?
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and does hanging fuzzy dice from the rearview mirror constitute an unapproved aftermarket add-on that invalidates your liability insurance by obstructing your view out the front?
My guess is that there are probably more state laws prohibiting obscuring your forward vision with fuzzy dice than there are prohibiting towing with a trailer over the manufacturer's tow rating...

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The question I have is, would the gearboxes hold up over the long-term, such as described in the opening post?

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I too wondered about this and once asked Andrew T about it as I was interested in towing with a 5 speed manual / Lincoln LS sedan.

He said that many of his customers use or have used manuals and work well. Apparently there is more of a concern with clutches although one guy I know who tows with a Volvo sedan (manual tranny) has faired well with his clutch durability.
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The problem w/ automatics and towing is cooling; the engine tends to run at higher output for longer and thus if the stock transmission cooler is inadequate problems ensue when transmission temps go over 230 F or so.

For the Jetta, the DSG automatic is very unlike most automatics - there is no torque converter; instead, there are two wet clutches (like a motorcycle) that are computer controlled. VW rates both manual and automatics for towing at 1000 lbs in the US, 2000 lbs in Europe (the same car) if the trailer has brakes.

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My guess is that there are probably more state laws prohibiting obscuring your forward vision with fuzzy dice than there are prohibiting towing with a trailer over the manufacturer's tow rating...

Tom, who knows Gringo was kidding

dang. I been found out. Again.
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