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Old 08-27-2013, 01:50 PM   #29
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I have yet to install a a WD hitch on my 12 Chevy Silverado CC. It tows our FC19 without any issues so far and that has been in the Olympic and Cascade ranges here in WA.
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Old 08-28-2013, 09:22 AM   #30
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I thought the Ridgeline did have a frame, welded to and part of the unibody. That's quite different than the Pilot.

Does the Ridgeline owners manual state you should not use a load equalizing hitch?

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Yes, and I haven't. Yes, it is quite different. We have had no problems towing any of the mountain passes in the SW.
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I have yet to install a a WD hitch on my 12 Chevy Silverado CC. It tows our FC19 without any issues so far and that has been in the Olympic and Cascade ranges here in WA.
Try, for the sake of safety, riding in the very back of your Airstream, at 60 mph, for about 10 minutes.

See if your opinion changes.

Physics says it will.

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Andy, I'm not sure what that would prove. Adding another 150 lbs to the very back of the trailer would completely change the experience of what the trailer normally tows like without the extra weight.
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Andy, I'm not sure what that would prove. Adding another 150 lbs to the very back of the trailer would completely change the experience of what the trailer normally tows like without the extra weight.
Stephanie.

It's not the weight of the person, but it is where the person is standing or sitting.

The back end of the trailer, they will learn, oscillates back and forth. They cannot feel that in the drivers seat.

That oscillation, can suddenly and violently increase, and the loss of control quickly follows.

Just using a load equalizing hitch decreses that oscillation, and, is eliminated when using a good sway control.

Riding in the back end of the trailer, merely demonstrates to the owner, that indeed, they should not ever tow with just a ball.

Or, if they wish, continue on with a misbelief.

Once again, to each his own, but with the current state of the art of lawsuits, it's very easy to prove that towing with just a ball, is very unsafe.

Hello, liabilty.

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It seems like the ones pushing WD hitches on unibody vehicles even after stated in manufacturers manuals not too are only Canadians, Inland Rv and Andy at Can-Am in Canada. It is illegal to use WD hitches in Europe, who's right?
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I called Audi directly (about my SQ5) and the person I talked with researched the subject. He called back today and said it would be no problem IF I installed an Audi brand hitch. It turns out this hitch includes electronics than alter engine and transmission performance that prevents burnout of both. Also WD hitch not to be used for similar reason. Thus using third party hitches to save money is a big mistake. I don't believe the "experts" understand this new technology. It pays to do your research!
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skinzy, Audi has no new technology here and the OEM hitch is just a common receiver. It is not part of the SQ5's electronic sway control, which has been around for some years.

The "third party hitch" referred to on this thread is a weight distribution hitch with integrated sway control, which Audi does not sell.

Although many people are able to successfully use (third party) w.d. hitches on unibody SUV's, many will also screw up installation, adjustment, and/or use, thereby bending or tearing the vehicle's receiver attachment. In other words, wreck the vehicle, lose the trailer, or both.

Manufacturer's won't risk it and who can blame them. Most buyer's use these vehicles for commuting smugly and occasionally pick up a new vacuum cleaner.

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If I ride in the back of my AS at 60 MPH who's going to drive
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It seems like the ones pushing WD hitches on unibody vehicles even after stated in manufacturers manuals not too are only Canadians, Inland Rv and Andy at Can-Am in Canada. It is illegal to use WD hitches in Europe, who's right?
I think that is the problem - there is no one who can say who is right, all we have to go on is personal experience. There is no overseeing body to determine what makes a tow vehicle safe, or what criteria a manufacturer uses when rating their vehicle's towing capacity. There is no overseeing body who can confirm that any hitch does what it claims for any particular tow vehicle/RV combination.

All we have to go on is suggested practices - get a vehicle with a long wheelbase, Stay under 80% of the tow rating, use a WD hitch, use sway control, and if anything happens, adjust it and try again. Kind of scary advice when you're talking about loss of control accidents!

You can't even compare Europe to the US because their trailers are setup to have very low tongue weights, and we are told to put more weight on the tongue for better handling. How does that work?
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I think that is the problem - there is no one who can say who is right, all we have to go on is personal experience. There is no overseeing body to determine what makes a tow vehicle safe, or what criteria a manufacturer uses when rating their vehicle's towing capacity. There is no overseeing body who can confirm that any hitch does what it claims for any particular tow vehicle/RV combination.

All we have to go on is suggested practices - get a vehicle with a long wheelbase, Stay under 80% of the tow rating, use a WD hitch, use sway control, and if anything happens, adjust it and try again. Kind of scary advice when you're talking about loss of control accidents!
I agree except I will start out without a WD hitch as manufacturer recommends.
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I agree except I will start out without a WD hitch as manufacturer recommends.
Makes sense to me.
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In a perfect world that is the way is should be and should work.

But......it is unfortunate that there is so much bad information about towing and performance that is given out by the vehicle manufacturers.
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Stephanie.

It's not the weight of the person, but it is where the person is standing or sitting.

The back end of the trailer, they will learn, oscillates back and forth. They cannot feel that in the drivers seat.

That oscillation, can suddenly and violently increase, and the loss of control quickly follows.

Just using a load equalizing hitch decreses that oscillation, and, is eliminated when using a good sway control.

Riding in the back end of the trailer, merely demonstrates to the owner, that indeed, they should not ever tow with just a ball.

Or, if they wish, continue on with a misbelief.

Once again, to each his own, but with the current state of the art of lawsuits, it's very easy to prove that towing with just a ball, is very unsafe.

Hello, liabilty.

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