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Old 12-10-2012, 11:21 AM   #57
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Having a hard time here believing so few people are towing with the Ram 1500 when so many are towing with the same size Ford and Toyota.
My opinion is that some people think Dodge is the red-headed step child of the automotive world. To me they are just fine and I really like my current truck. I came very close to buying the 1500 but ended up with the 2500 because I happened upon a really good deal. I also think all the brands are pretty much the same mechanically (pretty darn good these days) so this issue would come down to looks and price. I like the looks of the Dodge and think the others have a lot to be desired in that department. (just an opinion don't flame me!)
The only problem I have with the 1500 as well as other half ton brands is the low payload/axle weight. I like to have a cap on the back for stowing gear, folding bicycles and tools. This weight adds up.
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Old 12-10-2012, 11:46 AM   #58
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There are some reasons why I would only consider a Ram 1/2 ton truck, and the major one is if I trade to one, I want a shorter truck than my current 3/4 ton GMC Crewcab, but want to maintain the 6 1/2' bed, but will not accept the rear suicide doors of the Ford and GM trucks.

There are others, but I don't want this thread to turn into a brand bashing exercise. I truely want input from Ram truck owners.

In '04 I believe it was, I bought a single cab 1500 Dodge at that time, drove it for three years and 90K miles with light towing, and never put a wrench on it.
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Old 12-10-2012, 12:15 PM   #59
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The all new GM offerings will be revealed next week at the Detroit Auto Show, 12/13 at 9:30 AM streaming on Facebook. There will also be dedicated web pages later in the day. I have no clue if the suicide doors will still be there on the Ext. cab or not. I'll see it for the first time along with the public. It has been as secretive as the Corvette.
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:42 PM   #60
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Don't know if it's true or not, but read on another forum where Ram is supposed to come out with two different new Diesel engines for their trucks in '13, and one goes in the 1500 (a V6 with 400+ ft/lbs torque).

Now that would be sweet!
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:52 PM   #61
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There are some reasons why I would only consider a Ram 1/2 ton truck, and the major one is if I trade to one, I want a shorter truck than my current 3/4 ton GMC Crewcab, but want to maintain the 6 1/2' bed, but will not accept the rear suicide doors of the Ford and GM trucks.
I know that you want to limit this to Ram comments, but I bought a double cab Tundra in 08 because I wanted the 5.7L motor, the six speed tranny, the regular rear doors and a 6.5ft bed. If I were buying a new truck today the top contenders would probably be the Tundra and the Ram.

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Old 12-11-2012, 08:03 AM   #62
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Yes, I know lots of folks are getting good service out of the Toyota, but I'll just say I have personal reasons for preferring a Ram over it.
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Old 12-11-2012, 03:51 PM   #63
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I traded a Toyota for the Ram. Toyota was fine, but does not offer reg cab with large engine which I wanted to tow our Airstream, and have the short wheelbase maneuverability when not towing it.

That maneuverability and many, many thousands of dollars saved, are what led me away from a European diesel SUV search (which can be frustrating because of limitations without modifying things) and to the Dodge, which I had not originally considered. The excellent Ram Express package with brake controller and dash info display, and enough towing capacity as equipped (adjust w.d. hitch and go), sealed the deal.

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Old 12-11-2012, 04:20 PM   #64
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All your comments are nice to know, but as the original post states, I'm interested in how the new Dogge, or Ram as they are now called, is doing towing with the new coil spring rear suspension.

Surely there are more users of this truck that can comment?
A rule of thumb for towing any airstream, I'll give you the reference as quoted from the service Manuel...
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Old 12-11-2012, 04:55 PM   #65
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A rule of thumb for towing any airstream, I'll give you the reference as quoted from the service Manuel...
shadeemry,

Did that come out of your '75 service manuel? Although I don't argue what it is saying, in general, but the information ref the engine displacement seems a little "old school".

There are hardly any 400+ cubic inch engines available these days, except for Diesel, and if you used that formula for a 10,000 gvw 31 footer, you would need a 600+ cubic inch engine.

I do distinctly remember 350 engines in the '80's being about 210 HP, and now a 5.7 L (same displacement) approaching 400 HP.
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shadeemry,

Did that come out of your '75 service manuel? Although I don't argue what it is saying, in general, but the information ref the engine displacement seems a little "old school".

There are hardly any 400+ cubic inch engines available these days, except for Diesel, and if you used that formula for a 10,000 gvw 31 footer, you would need a 600+ cubic inch engine.

I do distinctly remember 350 engines in the '80's being about 210 HP, and now a 5.7 L (same displacement) approaching 400 HP.
True dat, but don't mistake a 4 cylinder 250 HP in a compact car for a suitable replacement for those old V8s either......I'm just saying, it isn't quite that simple on either side of the discussion.
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:48 PM   #67
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True dat, but don't mistake a 4 cylinder 250 HP in a compact car for a suitable replacement for those old V8s either......I'm just saying, it isn't quite that simple on either side of the discussion.
Yea, that should work real good....in a Mustang II, pulling a 34 footer, with a slide out. Probably needs a transmission oil cooler, however.
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We really enjoy our 2012 Ram and went with the 2500 only because we wanted the seamless torque of a diesel engine. ... for possible future longer AStreams. The rear suspension is VERY, VERY stiff, however, when the trailer is not hitched up ... even with a topper permanently bolted on to the truck and tire pressure lowered. We also wanted an extended cab, but had to opt for a crew cab as that is all that was available with the Cummins engine. (We had to "remodel" shelving the the garage to fit it inside) Creature conforts and safety features abound, but we have a very stiff ride and - with the new emmissions controls -very poor fuel economy (8-10 city; 12-14 hwy - hitched or not). Although we really like the effortless towing of the Ram truck, we'd probably not buy one again ... and stay with our softer riding / tranny-gear hunting under tow / and paid for '06 F150 5.4liter. Happy with the Ram overall? YES, but regret giving up the softer ride of the F150 and MUCH lower fuel costs to drive the Ford. Everything is a trade off ... I hope that medicare will help reduce medical costs for us this summer... making more disposable income available for travel.
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We really enjoy our 2012 Ram and went with the 2500 only because we wanted the seamless torque of a diesel engine. ... for possible future longer AStreams. The rear suspension is VERY, VERY stiff, however, when the trailer is not hitched up ... even with a topper permanently bolted on to the truck and tire pressure lowered. We also wanted an extended cab, but had to opt for a crew cab as that is all that was available with the Cummins engine. (We had to "remodel" shelving the the garage to fit it inside) Creature conforts and safety features abound, but we have a very stiff ride and - with the new emmissions controls -very poor fuel economy (8-10 city; 12-14 hwy - hitched or not). Although we really like the effortless towing of the Ram truck, we'd probably not buy one again ... and stay with our softer riding / tranny-gear hunting under tow / and paid for '06 F150 5.4liter. Happy with the Ram overall? YES, but regret giving up the softer ride of the F150 and MUCH lower fuel costs to drive the Ford. Everything is a trade off ... I hope that medicare will help reduce medical costs for us this summer... making more disposable income available for travel.
Wow! Are you sure you have enough power to pull that great big 20 footer there? I would think one of the "Canada Special" tow vehicles would be perfect for that trailer.

I know the Ram 2500 rides rough as I have test driven one. They're much rougher riding than my GMC 2500HD. If I were you, I'd take a serious look at the Sulastic Rubber Springs, sort of a rubber springed shackle that is easy to change, and reportedly really helps improve the ride.
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- with the new emmissions controls -very poor fuel economy (8-10 city; 12-14 hwy - hitched or not).
Mefly,

How many miles do you have on your 2500? Mileage will get better by about 4 mpg (unloaded) when you get 25,000 miles or so on the truck.

In the winter months when I'm not working my 2500 I run the rear tire pressure around 50 lbs and the fronts around 65 lbs using the "light load setting" per the manual. This helps the ride quite a bit. With the small trailer your towing you may want to try the light load setting and see how things go.

Sorry for the temporary hi-jack of the thread.
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