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Old 12-07-2012, 08:39 PM   #29
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am surprised that no major truck magazine or towing enthusiast has done a heads up road test/shoot out comparison of this new IRS Dodge with any leaf spring pick up. ???

Seems to me many folks very interested in actual real world differences.
There is Motor Trend comparison of 2012 models from August on the Raptor versus Runner. They are essentially the top of the line models but designed for off road use and kin to their siblings. See youTube search for

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Old 12-08-2012, 07:52 AM   #30
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All your comments are nice to know, but as the original post states, I'm interested in how the new Dogge, or Ram as they are now called, is doing towing with the new coil spring rear suspension.

Surely there are more users of this truck that can comment?
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Old 12-08-2012, 10:03 AM   #31
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We have a 2012 Ram 1500 Laramie Quad Cab with the 5.7 Hemi, 3.92 gears, factory brake controller. It tows our 30 footer without problems and, living in the Sierras, has been over many steep passes. I average 19 mpg w/o the AS and got 12.2 on a 4,700 mile trip through the western sates and Canada this past summer. The only drawback, we were over the GVWR of the truck by 160 lbs. when we weighed at the CAT scales. I wish I had a bed cap, but that would only increase the total weight.
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Old 12-08-2012, 10:08 AM   #32
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We have a 2012 Ram 1500 Laramie Quad Cab with the 5.7 Hemi, 3.92 gears, factory brake controller. It tows our 30 footer without problems and, living in the Sierras, has been over many steep passes. I average 19 mpg w/o the AS and got 12.2 on a 4,700 mile trip through the western sates and Canada this past summer. The only drawback, we were over the GVWR of the truck by 160 lbs. when we weighed at the CAT scales. I wish I had a bed cap, but that would only increase the total weight.
Thanks, and that's exactly the type of info I was looking for. But one specific question if you don't mind....do you feel the rear suspension is stable enough for towing your trailer, and what type of hitch do you use?

Sorry, I guess that was two questions. Anyway, I wouldn't be too concerned about going over the max weight a bit, they obviously don't think it's an issue in Canada.
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Old 12-08-2012, 10:11 AM   #33
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Steve, as stated earlier the truck drives and tows very nicely, a smooth riding truck. I could add that there are no problems with it, no dislikes, it is smoother and may have less side-to-side movement than the Tundra we replaced.

Have towed just under 4k miles so far with a Andersen hitch, which works nicely with it, especially virtually eliminating porpoising on old segmented concrete highways that we had with the Tundra/Equal-I-Zer. That may be more a quality of the hitch than the coil suspension, but they work well together. Note that the Andersen is the lightest of w.d. hitches, lightening tongue load to be transferred, and possibly improving the ride on the coils.

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Old 12-08-2012, 11:46 AM   #34
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Doug,

Would you happen to have a side view picture of your rig you could post, and do your know your tongue weight?
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Old 12-08-2012, 04:40 PM   #35
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Doug, congrats on the new truck! I know we both were considering a turbodiesel SUV for a while there. Somehow I think it's going to be easier to find parts and rural dealers for the Dodge...

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Old 12-09-2012, 08:33 AM   #36
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Yes Doug, the one picture I did see in the Andersen hitch thread, the rig looks really nice.

Any others towing with the late model Ram 1500?
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Old 12-09-2012, 08:44 AM   #37
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Steve, if the coil springs have you worried (as they did me) don't worry! The truck rides better with them (first vehicle for me without rear leaf springs!) The truck has a tail high rake unloaded, with the Airstream it is a little lower in the rear than level. The truck is not headlights to the sky by any means. I will try another notch higher on the bar chains next time to see if it makes it more level. My Tradewind is about 4200 dry, probably close to 4700 loaded. I usually do not carry fresh water in the tank. I hope this helps some more. No pics of mine on here yet, maybe this afternoon. John
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Old 12-09-2012, 09:07 AM   #38
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Thanks John. I'm actually considering in the future going to a Ram with the middle sized cab, hemi, 4X4, and the 3.92 gears for towing my 31' Classic. The truck has the towing capacity, but any way I figure it, I'll be 100-200 lbs over GRAWR any time I'm towing, and the coil springs have me concerned.

I used to have a Chevy truck, '72 I believe it was, that had coil rear springs. It did ride good, but would really sag any time you put a close to capacity load on it.

I won't go GM or Ford if I do this because I want the middle sized cab (GM calls it extended cab, Ford used to call it Supercab, but they've changed the name so I really don't know what they call it) anyway, they are both suicide opening rear doors and I won't have another one of them. Also the small GM rearend is weak, and the Ford has small seats that I don't like.

My trailer by spec has about a 800 lb tongue weight, plus I have a ProPride hitch, another 200+ lbs, so by the time I get a cap on it (also a necessity) the numbers are getting very close to max or slightly over max GRAWR.

So, these are the reasons I'm looking for success stories from folks towing with the newer Ram 1500 truck.
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I have a friend with the coil spring Ram.He tows a nearly 30ft toybox with it.It squatted a bit with it's 12-1300 twt.He added some light duty airbags that fit inside the coils and some Bilstein (yellow) shocks and is now very happy with it
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Thanks, and that's exactly the type of info I was looking for. But one specific question if you don't mind....do you feel the rear suspension is stable enough for towing your trailer, and what type of hitch do you use?

Sorry, I guess that was two questions. Anyway, I wouldn't be too concerned about going over the max weight a bit, they obviously don't think it's an issue in Canada.
Doug,

My AS came with an Eaz-Lift WDH. In approx. 7,000 miles of towing, only once did a get a significant amount of sway (in the mountains, on a corner, and being passed by a big rig right as I completed a lane change). If caused me to be a little more careful, as up to that time I had never had any concern with stability. It wasn't an issue, just a wake-up.

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My AS came with an Eaz-Lift WDH. In approx. 7,000 miles of towing, only once did a get a significant amount of sway (in the mountains, on a corner, and being passed by a big rig right as I completed a lane change). If caused me to be a little more careful, as up to that time I had never had any concern with stability. It wasn't an issue, just a wake-up.

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Bruce,

Your rig looks great. Do you know what rearend gear you have, and are you satisfied with the towing power of the Ram?
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:42 AM   #42
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I have the 2011 Ram 1500 Quad cab, Andersen hitch and a 2010 FC FB 25 ft. So far this combination is working great. I am a flat lander, so don't know much about mountains. normal mpg is 10+ towing @60 mph.;
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