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08-20-2008, 04:58 PM
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Rivet Master
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St. Catharines
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Originally Posted by Jaxon
Research includes many different sources of data,
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Yes and here is a good source that possibly msmst25 already checked out?
Canadian truck king challenge http://www.canadiantruckkingchallenge.ca/results.htm
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08-20-2008, 05:24 PM
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E Pluribus Aluminus
2008 34' Classic S/O
1967 22' Safari
2005 30' Classic
Land Of Enchantment
, New Mexico
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,300
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaxon
Research includes many different sources of data, including 'anecdotal' (which by the way, is the source of a large amount of published "data" where the 'postulate' is tested). I'd suggest looking for consistency in folks "personal experience" with each model/make...
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Originally Posted by Road Ruler
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Yup. Could be. Perhaps the Canadian Trucking Challenge was one of those sources reviewed. Would certainly add to my satisfaction if Ford were the winner...
Just sayin' that maybe the forums, dedicated to Airstreams & a boatload of member's experiences, has some good resources of their own (without outside sponsors). Still believe that consistency in our experience towing Airstreams is paramount.
Anyone know who sponsored the Canadian Trucking Challenge? Government? Insurance? Dealers? Be interesting to know...
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08-21-2008, 07:02 AM
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Rivet Master
1967 26' Overlander
Owings Mills
, MD
Join Date: Jun 2008
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The problem with anecdotal experience is that is highly subjective and generally based on a limited range of experiences. Most folks own a relatively small number of tow vehicles and a small number of travel trailers over the course of lifetime. Another issue is the "apples-to-apples" problem. As I noted before, there's a huge difference between towing a vintage 25' Airstream weighing in at under 4000 pounds dry and a modern 30' Airestream (with slide-out) tipping the scales at 8000 pounds. Before we can have intelligent conservation about a towing vehicle, we really should know exactly what is being towed.
I run across this same dynamic in firearms. There are guys in the "magnum" crowd who argue bigger is always better. They would say you should have at least 3/4 ton diesel to pull a '19 Bambi and you should hunt rabbits with a .300 Winchester Magnum. Other guys will hunt Cape Buffalo with a primitive bow and arrow.
I know some people will feel more comfortable in a 3/4 or 1 ton truck. This said, there are some 1/2 ton trucks that will do a perfectly competent job towing some travel trailers, i.e., under 25' and under 5000 pounds. Once you get to the 7000 pound/27' range, I think there's room for a much better discussion about the relative merits of the 1/2 ton versus the 3/4 ton TV. Is bigger always better? Maybe. Is bigger always necessary? I don't think so.
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08-21-2008, 08:25 AM
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Rivet Master
1999 27' Safari
Kent
, Ohio
Join Date: May 2006
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I would agree with that hampstead. I have towed for about 25 years or so, have driven over size loads on the freeway with a escort. I have had my share of maiden voyages.Boats Campers and semis, I just had that gun conversation with my son, and the NRA instructor.
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08-21-2008, 10:35 AM
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Rivet Master
2008 30' Classic S/O
Dearborn
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,403
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hampstead38
The problem with anecdotal experience is that is highly subjective and generally based on a limited range of experiences. Most folks own a relatively small number of tow vehicles and a small number of travel trailers over the course of lifetime. Another issue is the "apples-to-apples" problem. As I noted before, there's a huge difference between towing a vintage 25' Airstream weighing in at under 4000 pounds dry and a modern 30' Airestream (with slide-out) tipping the scales at 8000 pounds. Before we can have intelligent conservation about a towing vehicle, we really should know exactly what is being towed.
I run across this same dynamic in firearms. There are guys in the "magnum" crowd who argue bigger is always better. They would say you should have at least 3/4 ton diesel to pull a '19 Bambi and you should hunt rabbits with a .300 Winchester Magnum. Other guys will hunt Cape Buffalo with a primitive bow and arrow.
I know some people will feel more comfortable in a 3/4 or 1 ton truck. This said, there are some 1/2 ton trucks that will do a perfectly competent job towing some travel trailers, i.e., under 25' and under 5000 pounds. Once you get to the 7000 pound/27' range, I think there's room for a much better discussion about the relative merits of the 1/2 ton versus the 3/4 ton TV. Is bigger always better? Maybe. Is bigger always necessary? I don't think so.
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well said, nice analogy... I'm a big fan of the .45-70... and I don't know any good japanese firearm manufacturers
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09-02-2008, 07:53 AM
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#46
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2 Rivet Member
2008 25' Safari
Canton
, Mississippi
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 43
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2007 GMC Sierra 1500 Towing
Just returned from a Labor Day weekend trip (about 400 miles) towing a 2008 25A Lounge (UBW 5065 lbs). Truck has the 5.3 V-8 with HD Tow Package. Towed on Interstate 55 which is mostly flat but some hills and long grades in north Mississippi. Used the tow haul mode and cruise control set at about 63 MPH for most of the drive. Averaged 11.5 MPG for the whole trip. Encountered some moderate/stiff wind gust and moderate rain on the way home (side bans from hurricane Gustav). The TV, weight distribution and sway control set up (Curt) worked very well and 25 ft trailer towed beautifully. I am a newbie and this was only my second extended trip but I felt in control and confident the whole way. The GMC 1/2 ton does a good job and I do not regret my decision to stay with the 1/2 ton.
Had a great time camping with alot of Louisiana and Texas hurricane evacuees. What a great bunch of folks. I wish them well and a safe return home. Our prayers are with them!
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