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Old 07-04-2009, 12:49 PM   #15
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I just found the nicest 1998 Excella 30' I am seriously considering. They weigh in at 8,300. I originally wanted a F-150 but not sure it will handle this, though a 2007 Tundra 4x4 says it will handle 10,000. And I like the look of the Tundra, don't want a diesel. Sound good?
The F150 has a better shot at towing it then the Toyota does!! I cant imagine having any problems with a F150 honestly unless it is geared wrong. I had a 300 six in one (F150) with 3:08 gears that would have towed it fine.
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Old 07-04-2009, 04:15 PM   #16
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Connersa, the 2nd generation Tundras started in 2007 and although rated as a 1/2 ton, are overbuilt for a half ton. The 30' Excella tongue weight is only 610 lbs, so it's doable.

Different Tundras have different payloads. 4wd is less than 2wd, the crew cab has less that the double cab. There are a lot of different models, so you have to check an owner's manual to find out about a specific model. It's a little over 1,500 lbs. for ours. Payload is cargo which includes passengers, dogs, tools, junk, more junk and part of the tongue weight. With a weight distributing hitch about 2/3 of the tongue wt. should be transferred to the truck. But add to tongue weight the spare tire and the weight of the propane in the tanks. It is recommended to not exceed about 85% or so of payload for a safety factor.

The Tundra 5.7 liter engine can handle just about anything. I can go 65 over Colorado passes if I want to without effort, but that uses a lot more gas than 50 or 55. The Tundra pulls our Safari very easily. The Excella, fully loaded, weighs 1,000 lbs. more than our Safari, but the Tundra has plenty of power, so it would probably be no problem.

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Old 07-04-2009, 04:18 PM   #17
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The ford doesn't have the HP or the Torque that the tundra has, Even if the tow capacity is more with the F150 I would go for the higher torque.. for towing. And The Tundra has a 4.3 rear end which is nicer for towing...

But it's a personal choice. there are people towing with both the F150 and the Tundra and either will get the job done... Just look at them both, get a good price and the options you want... The Ford you have to get extra tow packages to get the hight tow ratings, the tundra just has one standard TP
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Old 07-04-2009, 04:21 PM   #18
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The 80-85% tow capacity factor has come up a lot, But I would have to agree with a post someone made about the manufacture tow rating being safe to max out.. Why would they give you a limit and not expect you to be able to tow safely there??

Again I think it a personal choice and The only disadvantage for maxing out the load is, more weight to stop.

But thats why we have trailer brakes>>>>>>
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Old 07-06-2009, 03:03 PM   #19
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We just came back from a trip that included the area around Durango, and all over Utah pulling our 25' with a 1/2 ton GMC. We had no troubles, but I would not want to pull a bigger trailer with the truck...it's at what I consider safe capacity now. (the truck is rated to tow 7800 pounds.)
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We have a 2009 19' Bambi and are towing with a Toyota 4 Runner, with Reese hitch and sway control. It's fine except for more effort going up hills. We are considering getting a Ford F-150. Ford says the 4.6L 3-valve V8 will tow 9500 lbs and the 5.4L 3-valve V8 tows 11,300. Is Ford F-150 a good choice? Any advice would be appreciated!
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Old 07-12-2009, 08:04 AM   #21
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Personally, I question why Ford's 4.6L engine equipped truck is rated to tow 9500 pounds when GM's 5.3L engine equipped truck is rated to tow only 7800 pounds? Seems to me someone is either underestimating, or someone is overestimating, and this is not just because I own a GM.
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Old 07-12-2009, 09:35 AM   #22
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I know ya don't like diesels and I am personally a Ford person and having drivin diesels all my adult life they don't bother me,you get used to them. I think if I were inclined I would look at GM's Duramax .Its quiet compaired to International(Ford) and Cummins (Dodge) and if gas is more to your liking .Id pick the best deal I could find on a F250/2500 series Crewcab longbed I could find. Add a cap too the bed for storin you STUFF and your are set. The 3/4 tons will give you load handling and braking power.Long wheelbase will give the ride you desire. I would stay away for the foreign makes and their claims. ITS all advertizing.
In todays market you should be able to find a new or just off lease (2 yr old) piece of equipment to suite your needs. Its best to actually buy more truck than you really need ,than to live on the edge of MAXED out and be unhappy.
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The original post, stated that the TT weighed in at 8,300 lbs, while a later post says only 600 some lbs., of toungue weight, there seems to be a discrepency of figures. An 8,300 lb. unit would carry around 850-900 lbs. of toungue weight, plus hitch. Weights of this size are clearly in the range for a 3/4 ton tow vehicle. Yes, maybe, a 1/2 ton vehicle COULD pull the weight, but the payload capacity of the vehicle will be stressed to the max.
With 3>400 lbs. of people, say 900 lbs of hitch weight, 150lbs of fuel, and a pile of "stuff", your at, or over the weight "carrying" limits of most 1/2 tons, irrespective of "towing" capacity.
With a TT that big, and heavy, you really need a domestic brand of 3/4 ton vehicle, with gears in the 3.73>4.10 range.
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donna, what do you mean by more effort required going up hills? All trucks and SUV's need more effort going up hills unless you buy a 3/4 ton truck with an enormous diesel engine, and that truck would be far more than you need for a Bambi. The newer 4runner has a bigger V6 than the one you have in your '99 4Runner. You can also buy a 4Runner with a V8 and that would be plenty of engine for your purposes.

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Gene, thanks. My eyes are blurry from reading all the posts on TVs! When going uphill, even when not much of a grade, we have to shift to 2nd and the engine seems to "labor" to keep pulling. Some drag is to be expected but I get nervous about maintaining speed and being safe.
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Gene, thanks. My eyes are blurry from reading all the posts on TVs! When going uphill, even when not much of a grade, we have to shift to 2nd and the engine seems to "labor" to keep pulling. Some drag is to be expected but I get nervous about maintaining speed and being safe.
Installing a transmission oil cooler helps.

But, when climbing, if you need to down shift, that's OK.

Pick a comfortable climbing speed, stay with it, and before you know it, your there.

Think of it this way.

Even our super high powered "jet" aircraft, have to back off of the climbing speed, until they reach cruise altitude.

If you try to practice the same proceedure, your Airstream travels will be much happier, and you will use less fuel as well.

Climbing in high gear, and striving to maintain a cruise speed, elevates the cylinder head temperatures, and leads to ultimate shorter engine life.

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donna, 2nd gear does seem low especially on a NC hill. I believe you have a 4 speed, probably a manual. We had a 2000 4Runner and it was a great truck, but that size V6 would have been tested. Over the years they've made that engine bigger and more powerful and sometime in the middle of this decade they included a V8 option. I think it's the 4.7 L. V8. If you're happy with your 4Runner, you might consider a newer one. They feel pretty much the same, the controls are pretty much in the same place. We now have an '06 V6 and it handles better than the 2000.

I think the only reason to buy a bigger truck would be if you were thinking of trading in your Bambi for a heavier trailer.

I can't blame you for being crazed by reading all the threads about tow vehicles. They unfortunately are often characterized by "mine is the best". Of course, mine is the best.

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We have a 2009 19' Bambi and are towing with a Toyota 4 Runner, with Reese hitch and sway control. It's fine except for more effort going up hills. We are considering getting a Ford F-150. Ford says the 4.6L 3-valve V8 will tow 9500 lbs and the 5.4L 3-valve V8 tows 11,300. Is Ford F-150 a good choice? Any advice would be appreciated!
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Hi, Ford's 4.6 L engine is a great engine, but the 5.4 L engine has way more torque. I would not tow with the 4.6 L engine no matter what tow rating is has. Some time in the future, Ford is supposed to have a new, larger, V-8 engine. [6.2 L] This is [hear say] going to have much more HP and Torque than the 5.4 L does. My plan is to buy one around two years used.
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