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Old 12-14-2012, 09:21 PM   #15
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Yea, my current Duramax truck tows the trailer litterally effortlessly, but when not towing, it's like driving a duce and a half, and it's getting "long in the tooth". When I bought it used with 47K on it, I planned to drive it to 150K, and trade. I know the Diesel engine and the drive train will go a lot longer, but the rest of it's just GM truck. It's got 111K on it now, so I'm just trying to figure out what I want to do. I also don't want to drive it until it's worthless. It's sort of a "I want my cake and eat it too" situation.

I was checking the Ford site a while ago, and they have a payload of over 2000 lbs on specially equipped 150's, but not the others. Too bad I can't handle the seat in a Ford with my back, and too bad they don't make a supercab without suicide rear doors.

I saw the pictures of the new (2014) Chevy 1500, and they now have correct opening rear doors on that size cab, but in the past the 1/2 ton GM rear end wasn't strong enough. Don't know if they've fixed that or not.

Whatever truck I get WILL have a camper cover on the back, so that weight has to be figured in also. I figure I'm carring 1600-1800 pounds total, but most all of the time when towing.
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:59 PM   #16
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I tow my 30' '02 Classic w/ slide with my '10 F 150 Supercrew w/ 6.5' box and max tow pkg and a 1,000/10,000 # Equalizer hitch. It has the 5.4 engine and 6 spd auto. The truck isn't loaded with a lot of stuff in the box. A couple bikes, small grill, folding chairs and some tools. The trailer weighs about 9,000 - 9,200 loaded. I have gone away from the P rated tires which were OEM after bad experiences with them. I have Michelin LTX MS2 load range E now. They are performing very well for me. I towed with an '06 F250 Super Duty PSD before. Ride, fuel availabilty, and the diesel odor - fuel and exhaust - turned me away. Also the 6-spd tranny behind the 5.4 was a definite plus for me. I had two 5.4s w/ 4 spd auto earlier and felt the power was more than enough. Sure, it works the engine some, but so what! With 54K + on the engine it seems to get stronger. Mileage runs 9-11 mpg towing. We have towed to Newfoundland, around Lake Superior, and to southwest FL 3 times from SW Iowa as well as other trips. It may not be what you want to take to the mountains all the time, especially if you need to be in the fast lane, but it will get the job done for you and you wont be embarrassed or disappointed. I have pulled this trailer at least 25K miles w/ this truck and am very satisfied with the performance!
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Old 12-14-2012, 10:24 PM   #17
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Thanks Bruce, One question for you, did the 2008 have the four speed transmission, or the six?
The 2008 had the 4 speed Auto
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Old 12-14-2012, 10:29 PM   #18
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The 2008 had the 4 speed Auto
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Old 12-14-2012, 11:11 PM   #19
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I tow my 30' '02 Classic w/ slide with my '10 F 150 Supercrew w/ 6.5' box and max tow pkg and a 1,000/10,000 # Equalizer hitch. It has the 5.4 engine and 6 spd auto. The truck isn't loaded with a lot of stuff in the box. A couple bikes, small grill, folding chairs and some tools. The trailer weighs about 9,000 - 9,200 loaded. I have gone away from the P rated tires which were OEM after bad experiences with them. I have Michelin LTX MS2 load range E now. They are performing very well for me. I towed with an '06 F250 Super Duty PSD before. Ride, fuel availabilty, and the diesel odor - fuel and exhaust - turned me away. Also the 6-spd tranny behind the 5.4 was a definite plus for me. I had two 5.4s w/ 4 spd auto earlier and felt the power was more than enough. Sure, it works the engine some, but so what! With 54K + on the engine it seems to get stronger. Mileage runs 9-11 mpg towing. We have towed to Newfoundland, around Lake Superior, and to southwest FL 3 times from SW Iowa as well as other trips. It may not be what you want to take to the mountains all the time, especially if you need to be in the fast lane, but it will get the job done for you and you wont be embarrassed or disappointed. I have pulled this trailer at least 25K miles w/ this truck and am very satisfied with the performance!
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That is very encouraging. I agree that the 6 speed tranny can make a huge difference in the towing ability. Sounds like my Tundra could also tow your load as the Tundra's 5.7L torque is a bit higher along with the 4.3 rear end being higher. Both would help the big T tow just a bit better. My Tundra tows my Tradewind with no problem. Reading your post shows that I could also tow my Excella 31' if I ever wanted that option. Just curious if you have weighed your rig to see where you are at on your rear axle weight and your gross vehicle truck weight.

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Old 12-14-2012, 11:42 PM   #20
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I weighed the rig at our coop elevator but have forgotten the weights except the tongue wt of the trailer which was 890#. I may have a chance to weigh before we head for FL on the 27th. If so I will post back here. On the first tow to FL in Dec. '09 I had concerns because the tranny spent a lot of time in 5th. Finally the light came on in my head - if it was a manual 6 spd I'd be in fifth gear also!
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Old 12-15-2012, 08:18 AM   #22
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The Ford has a higher Max Payload than the Toyota, or any other 1/2 ton for that matter, but it's only available with the supercrew and the 6 1/2' bed, a lenght of truck I'm trying to get away from.

I wonder how they get that rating, from the boilerhouse?
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The Ford has a higher Max Payload than the Toyota, or any other 1/2 ton for that matter, but it's only available with the supercrew and the 6 1/2' bed, a lenght of truck I'm trying to get away from.

I wonder how they get that rating, from the boilerhouse?
It is a long truck - as you know.

Not sure about the comment on 'boilerhouse' which I interprete to be the engine?

As for chassis - the Max Payload or HD Payload equipped versions come with upgraded axles and suspension, as well as stronger rims and 'E' load rated tires.
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"Boilerhouse" is a term that was used in the military. Means sort of to make up paper work as necessary.
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Old 12-15-2012, 12:42 PM   #25
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A quick thread survey shows 8, yes it works, and 2, oh hell no don't do it! Well, not quite that bad, but still.....

I'm still a distance away from trading, and things might change by the time I do decide to do it. My delema is I want a truck with these parameters:
1. The mid sized cab like Ford's Supercab, but must have normal opening doors...suicide doors are unacceptable.
2. WILL have a camper shell on the back so that weight is a consideration.
3. 4X4, 6.5 ft bed
4. large fuel tank (36 gallon)
5. Wide factory towing mirrors
6. Minimum 9,000 lb towing capacity
7. 1800 Payload capacity
8. Not white, not red, not black

If any of you find a 1/2 ton truck with these features, please let me know.
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the F-150 can work for you. just remember that the higher you go up the options ladder the lower the payload. my XLT has a payload of 1804 lbs. and if you went with a 6-1/2' bed and the max payload package it would be higher. Ford has a payload calculator that gives the weight of every option.
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Old 12-15-2012, 01:34 PM   #27
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the F-150 can work for you. just remember that the higher you go up the options ladder the lower the payload. my XLT has a payload of 1804 lbs. and if you went with a 6-1/2' bed and the max payload package it would be higher. Ford has a payload calculator that gives the weight of every option.
Ford's Supercab has suicide opening rear doors....unacceptable.

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