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Old 07-14-2019, 05:00 AM   #15
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Old 07-14-2019, 05:17 AM   #16
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I would not do something stupid like going way over the 12,800 pound capacity as quoted by Dodge, but might like to push it a thousand pounds or so. I wonder if the manufacturers recommended tow capacity is somewhat arbitrary.
Itís definitely not arbitrary. Running at or over tow limits (weight or payload) will give marginal performance and cause accelerated wear of some components. There are modifications possible but again this is not the forum to ask about it. Some one ton trucks have only an additional leaf spring; others have differences in frame or axle configuration. In these days of spreadsheet engineering not many people actually know how to do modifications properly.

Iíve made really short trips overloaded (bought a ton truck at an auction once and trailered it home with my 1500, got a load of dirt that was a bit heavy, etc) in my younger days. The difference was dramatic. No way would I tow a marginally or overweight TT cross country in traffic in a stock truck.
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Safety first - not only for you but everyone else on the road... time for a new truck that meets the requirements of the trailer or buy a trailer that is with in the towing/payload of your Ram... really, there is no compromise or turning a sows ear into a silk condition
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Old 07-14-2019, 12:34 PM   #18
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We have a 2018 diesel that will pull it but . . . why downgrade to a 5th wheel. We live in ours full time with 3 large dogs and love it. Perhaps we can't store as much stuff as you'd like but everything fits or it's gone.
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Old 07-14-2019, 01:10 PM   #19
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We have a 2018 diesel that will pull it but . . . why downgrade to a 5th wheel. We live in ours full time with 3 large dogs and love it. Perhaps we can't store as much stuff as you'd like but everything fits or it's gone.
We have not made up our minds yet but our thinking is a large 5th wheel with slide outs has a more open feel and more amenities, but I am interested in other's thinking. My 26 year old 34 triple is big but no place for a big tv, no built in jenny, no dishwasher, no washer dryer, no central vac etc. I could make some upgrades for some of the above and some not. The big reason for the "downgrade" though is an Airstream is just not a 4 season trailer and if we do the full time thing would be forced to snowbird, which we may end up doing anyway. We also could not afford a newer large Airstream.
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Don't be fooled. No trailer is built for all seasons unless you snow bank the sides and ends under the bottom outside edge. A more permanent fix is to make insulated sides to fit around the perimeter. If you do that and add a large propane tank(s) with automatic refill from the distributor you can do four season in any TT. I have done it many times down Into the lower single digits.
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We have not made up our minds yet but our thinking is a large 5th wheel with slide outs has a more open feel and more amenities, but I am interested in other's thinking. My 26 year old 34 triple is big but no place for a big tv, no built in jenny, no dishwasher, no washer dryer, no central vac etc. I could make some upgrades for some of the above and some not. The big reason for the "downgrade" though is an Airstream is just not a 4 season trailer and if we do the full time thing would be forced to snowbird, which we may end up doing anyway. We also could not afford a newer large Airstream.
I have officially become a snowbird, buying in to Travelers Rest & Resort in Florida. I will have a shed, washer/dryer, golf cart and cabana. It is like another living room next to the trailer. I could have chosen a park model or even a prefab house.... and am keeping my airstream to flee Florida in the summer. Even if you choose a 5th wheel, you can park it as a cabin, rent a tow vehicle from a commercial lease co. (or hire a semi) and move it 2, 3 times a year. And keeping the Airstream is then still an option.
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Just remember that if you trade up to a new Ram/Cummins, you get the DEF system that can fail and leave you disabled in 150 miles. I wish I had kept my old 2001 2500!
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Just remember that if you trade up to a new Ram/Cummins, you get the DEF system that can fail and leave you disabled in 150 miles. I wish I had kept my old 2001 2500!
My 2008 Ram Cummins has only 80k, no DEF. Runs great. Part of the reason I want to see if there is anything I can do to make it work.
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My 2008 Ram Cummins has only 80k, no DEF. Runs great. Part of the reason I want to see if there is anything I can do to make it work.
Find someone who knows what they are doing and ask about suspension mods. It can be done without ďputting everyone else on the road in perilĒ.
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One of the quickest ways to convince the "DW" to upgrade to a dually 1 ton is to hookup to 5th wheel on a really hot day when asphalt is not at its best, hitch your 3/4/ ton and go for a ride. Include some really tight exit ramps off interstates . When "DW " feels the back off the tv sliding as the 5 the wh.pushes it around, guarantee your next stop will be a new truck dealership!
A 1 ton not only has an extra spring, but the extra tires on the rear axle really make a huge difference in handling of heavy loads. As to the "DW" comment I really shouldn't have to say " ask me how I know".
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What was the final straw that convinced me staying within your trucks specs is when a customer of mine came in that is also a person injury attorney and knew I was an RVer. He said he just been to a seminar that talks about overweight RVs and focus on 3/4 ton trucks and 5th wheels. He said it was easy to prove since you can get the ratings on both the truck and the 5er from the manufacturer. I ask about court cases and he said that any lawyer that has his client interest at heart won't let get to court being in the wrong and face an unknown of a jury settlement. I think even a few years ago that might not be the case but today with a sue-happy society and better-educated attorneys and like he said the baby boomers increasingly towing over manufacture capacities it has become an issue. Just something to think about.


PS I ask about insurance not paying and he said the insurance in this state has to pay but the judge can award all parties be paid for damages/expenses including the insurance company.
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5th wheels and dual rear wheels is wise.
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Well it's now taken the natural progression to "must have a dualie." It won't be long before the HDT folks start.
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