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Old 04-02-2016, 06:03 PM   #1
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Towing Capabilities 2014 GC

This is my current setup: 2014 JGC: Not equipped with factory tow package. Penstar V-6, aftermarket CURT hitch, Electronic brake controller. Equalizer Hitch set up by the AS dealer. Tow capacity 6,200 #. AS 22ft Bambi, 3,770 pounds dry weight, close to 4,600 pounds loaded. I have traveled 600 miles since purchase with no issues.( mostly in flat New Jersey) I am heading for the Mountains of West Virginia in June.

I am considering moving to the GC Diesel, but I don't know if the cost of $45000 is worth the move....Please provide thoughts, suggestions and recommendations.

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Old 04-02-2016, 06:12 PM   #2
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Without a secondary transmission cooler pulling through the mountains could be a challenge. Sounds like you're rigged up pretty well but the Penstar V6, a great engine as Ive had one in my jeep wrangler may struggle in the mountains. If the ecodiesel GC is what you want buy it as its a great engine.
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Old 04-02-2016, 06:20 PM   #3
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Looks and sounds like you have a well-matched setup now. I'm not a fan of the Equal-I-Zer hitch we had because of it's stiff w.d. bars and we had too much movement on the highway with wind and semi's on our Ram 1500 reg cab. Solved both issues with a ProPride hitch. If you're satisfied with the stability, and the GC is a more stable chassis than ours, you've got a nice rig. If you have the 8-speed transmission (we just got one) it's all the better.

P.S. Yes, as Joe says, get a transmission cooler installed if not there. And the Ecodiesel is indeed terrific.
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Old 04-02-2016, 09:05 PM   #4
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We have a Sport 22 also, and use an Equalizer as well.

We looked at the diesel JGC, but found we could buy a very, very nice Tundra with V8 gas engine, tow package, max crew cab and short bed for less $ than the GC.

Felt it was a more robust vehicle, and had more verve in reserve for towing, and also that the gas engine was just a simpler set up.

I would drive them both before deciding. The Tundra is my daily driver. I drove a Honda Pilot for 10 years before that. The Tundra is very easy to drive.
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The JGC shares a platform with the Mercedes GL 550 and the Dodge Durango. You get the benefits of fully independent suspension and a superb 8 gear transmission. It will out-drive and out-manoeuvre most any truck on the market. The Pentastar engine is proven and reliable and more than capable hauling your trailer.

I'd stick with your vehicle for a year and see how you like it before spending money on changing it.
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Old 04-03-2016, 07:23 AM   #6
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I tow my 25', 6600b Flying Cloud with a Durango V-8. I think you'll be fine with your current GC. If you have the option of reading the actual tranny temp (mine does) you can monitor it and see if you need the tranny cooler. If wouldn't hurt to add it any way.
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Old 04-03-2016, 01:42 PM   #7
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I drove our 2014 GC Ecodiesel Summit (stock tow package) towing our 23FB (confirmed 5,500 lbs on a CAT scale fully loaded with fresh water and LPG tanks full) rt Seattle - St John's, NL (13,700 miles) across the Rockies and several lesser New England passes in all kinds of weather (hail, tornado watches, light late snow, thunderstorms, etc.). Used an Equalizer (insert the hyphens as needed!). We had a very stable rig. Oncoming and passing semis and triples in IN made no dufference. Up and down the high elevations and twisty New England roads in Adirondacks and Cape Breton Cabot Trail went very smoothly. Average overall was 16.4 mpg. Drove at 55-65 (occasionally passed others uphill at 70). Checked lug nuts, hitch bolts, and tire pressures every few days. In sum, it's a great setup.
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Looks and sounds like you have a well-matched setup now. I'm not a fan of the Equal-I-Zer hitch we had because of it's stiff w.d. bars and we had too much movement on the highway with wind and semi's on our Ram 1500 reg cab. Solved both issues with a ProPride hitch. If you're satisfied with the stability, and the GC is a more stable chassis than ours, you've got a nice rig. If you have the 8-speed transmission (we just got one) it's all the better.

P.S. Yes, as Joe says, get a transmission cooler installed if not there. And the Ecodiesel is indeed terrific.
The mountains of WV will separate the men from the boys of tow vehicles
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Looks and sounds like you have a well-matched setup now. I'm not a fan of the Equal-I-Zer hitch we had because of it's stiff w.d. bars and we had too much movement on the highway with wind and semi's on our Ram 1500 reg cab. Solved both issues with a ProPride hitch. If you're satisfied with the stability, and the GC is a more stable chassis than ours, you've got a nice rig. If you have the 8-speed transmission (we just got one) it's all the better.

P.S. Yes, as Joe says, get a transmission cooler installed if not there. And the Ecodiesel is indeed terrific.
Why the hell would ANYBODY (other than an '18 wheeler') need an 8 speed transmission is beyond me.
My previous Toyota 4-Runner had a five speed, and towed a 6000 lb. Hi-Lo rather well, even through the hills of Vermont; with a 6 cyl. engine.
I used third speed, at 3000 RPM going up those looong hills. It worked!

My current Ford F-150 has a six speed tranny, 3.55 final drive, 3.5 Eco-boost engine, and I NEVER use the sixth gear for anything. It's way too tall for any use, and is completely redundant.
I normally run my engines at 2500 RPM which is max torque on the Eco-B, and shift with the little buttons on the side of the shifter. 2500+/- a little is good for the engine and fuel milage, as not too fast; and allows the ancilliary services to run efficiently.
These multi-speed transmissions are just a sales gimmick to impress the unwashed buyers, that will wind up costing them much coin in the future.
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Cheryl has relatives in W.V. and we've been through a number of times over many years. Our worst experience was on a mountain road that became narrow then went away, then trying to turn around. We managed but it took awhile. The shorter wheelbase GC would have helped a lot.

With eight speeds forward his GC will find one to make the grade.
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Mel, eight speed trans is a joy to have climbing and descending mountains, no roaring engine as it moves down in gears to reach enough torque for climbing or engine compression braking for the job.

I think the main reason the manufacturers built it though is fuel economy. Very little rise in rpm as you accelerate through the gears.

Thinking of the good old days, were the early PowerGlide transmissions 2 speed?
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Why the hell would ANYBODY (other than an '18 wheeler') need an 8 speed transmission is beyond me.

...some more grumping...

These multi-speed transmissions are just a sales gimmick to impress the unwashed buyers, that will wind up costing them much coin in the future.
Because it keeps our engine ticking nicely at about 1300rpm at 65 mp/h - that's one reason. The other is fuel efficiency, even accelerating at a steady pace its rare to hit 2500rpm. The paddle shifters make downshifting on descents a breeze.

The new transmission is also being used by Audi and Bentley in their vehicles - silky smooth gear changes all the way through and proven technology. No need to be such an old grouch about this.
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Ford and Chevy are cooperative in the development of two multi-speed transmissions. One will be for cars and the other will be for trucks. Understand they are 9 and 10 speed units.

Mel - a close ratio transmission has proven to be an effective way to deliver the right torque when it is needed. Adding an overdrive or two is helpful to improve fuel economy. What works with an 18 wheeler is a help for other vehicles as well. When it comes to hills, even bicycles work better with a few gears.

The GC certainly seems like a good tow vehicle. JMO, but the GC is what I recommend to folks who are looking for a good SUV to use as a tow vehicle. Pat
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I recently picked up our 25 FB in Salt Lake City and brought it home to Long Island, with my 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee EcoDiesel. It was a total pleasure to tow. My only quibble is that, for my Airstream, I'm right at the manufacturer's recommended weight limits. Nevertheless, it handled beautifully and I barely knew the trailer was there.

I won't give such a glowing review to the Equal-I-zer hitch. While I have nothing to compare it with, I have to disagree with WestieHouse: I felt every semi as it passed the trailer and the resulting push to the left on my Jeep. I got used to it rather quickly, but I won't say I didn't feel the semis. I have a ProPride hitch (which a dealer couldn't/wouldn't install for me), and I'm looking forward to getting it installed and never feeling another semi's bow wave again.

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