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Old 01-10-2019, 10:15 AM   #57
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Your plan to switch to a Yukon isn't a good idea in my opinion. The Yukon can tow a smaller Airstream safely. The ultimate measure of towing prowess is the combined vehicle weight rating GCWR. Your Sierra is rated around 24,000 lbs. The Yukon is probably in the 15k range, I am guessing, since most 1/2 trucks are the 16-17k range. Your rig will be close to overweight most of the time. The Yukon doesn't even have a tow rating sufficient, considering the tow rating is with a driver only. Remember that GCWR reflects the braking capacity of the tow vehicle. Your Yukon will have not have the braking you are used to. If you converted to disk brakes on the Airstream, you would add some safety. Otherwise, you are going to overhead brakes on the truck and trailer often if you drive in the mountains and will have poor emergency braking. You will lose the exhaust brake and be using the service brakes much more. I have a 2012 GMC 2500 and the ride is fine empty. Your description of the unloaded ride worries me. Perhaps there is something wrong with your truck? Did you buy it new? Are the original shocks still on it? The previous pre-2011 GMC trucks road stiffly, but after 2011 the hydraulic body mounts really smoothed things out. (I am assuming no charges were made by GMC---I haven't heard of any other than the cab being a couple of inches longer). I don't care for the GMC around town only because of its size, not ride quality. Why not take a look at the new Ram 1500 trucks--Motor Trend Truck of the year. This truck is truly smooth on the highway with coil springs. The Hemi has equal power to the GM 6.2 so both will be sluggish compared with the Sierra. But, the truck will be up to the task of towing that weight safely and you will have a more pleasant ride around town. Good luck.
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Old 01-10-2019, 11:39 PM   #58
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Your plan to switch to a Yukon isn't a good idea in my opinion. The Yukon can tow a smaller Airstream safely. The ultimate measure of towing prowess is the combined vehicle weight rating GCWR. Your Sierra is rated around 24,000 lbs. The Yukon is probably in the 15k range, I am guessing, since most 1/2 trucks are the 16-17k range. Your rig will be close to overweight most of the time. The Yukon doesn't even have a tow rating sufficient, considering the tow rating is with a driver only. Remember that GCWR reflects the braking capacity of the tow vehicle. Your Yukon will have not have the braking you are used to. If you converted to disk brakes on the Airstream, you would add some safety. Otherwise, you are going to overhead brakes on the truck and trailer often if you drive in the mountains and will have poor emergency braking. You will lose the exhaust brake and be using the service brakes much more. I have a 2012 GMC 2500 and the ride is fine empty. Your description of the unloaded ride worries me. Perhaps there is something wrong with your truck? Did you buy it new? Are the original shocks still on it? The previous pre-2011 GMC trucks road stiffly, but after 2011 the hydraulic body mounts really smoothed things out. (I am assuming no charges were made by GMC---I haven't heard of any other than the cab being a couple of inches longer). I don't care for the GMC around town only because of its size, not ride quality. Why not take a look at the new Ram 1500 trucks--Motor Trend Truck of the year. This truck is truly smooth on the highway with coil springs. The Hemi has equal power to the GM 6.2 so both will be sluggish compared with the Sierra. But, the truck will be up to the task of towing that weight safely and you will have a more pleasant ride around town. Good luck.


I think you missed the part about needing more interior space. We are a family of 4 + dog and need more space for everyday things like strollers and grandparents. Itís hard to get 4 plus a dog comfortably in any pickup truck and the grandparents arenít keen on riding in the box.

Iíll post an update soon, weíre heading down to Florida for February and will have plenty of time to determine if this was a good move or a bad move!
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Old 01-11-2019, 06:31 AM   #59
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I think you missed the part about needing more interior space. We are a family of 4 + dog and need more space for everyday things like strollers and grandparents. Itís hard to get 4 plus a dog comfortably in any pickup truck and the grandparents arenít keen on riding in the box.

Iíll post an update soon, weíre heading down to Florida for February and will have plenty of time to determine if this was a good move or a bad move!
Don't worry, 🤯...just pay attention to axle and tire load ratings, get a quality WD, set it up properly, carefully load the AS and TV, enjoy. 👍
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:03 AM   #60
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My 2016Ram Laramie 2500 tows like a dream with a ride comparable to SUV. And the Cummins 6.7 TBD doesnít even know itís there. Maybe itís the Rams air suspension. I upgraded from a 1500 Ram because the payload was so low. Just saying there may be another truck option for you that is a safer tug.
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:34 AM   #61
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My 2016Ram Laramie 2500 tows like a dream with a ride comparable to SUV. And the Cummins 6.7 TBD doesnít even know itís there. Maybe itís the Rams air suspension. I upgraded from a 1500 Ram because the payload was so low. Just saying there may be another truck option for you that is a safer tug.

How 'bout the driver, does he know it's there? 🤔

If I read the 1st post correctly the OP has already tried a 'truck' and is looking to upgrade for more interior room and a better ride.👍

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Old 01-11-2019, 08:40 AM   #62
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Bilsteins will make the ride even more firm. I love Bilsteins and I love a firm ride. My 2500 Duramax is my daily driver and I like the ride. I previously had an Ď06 Duramax and the new truck rides much smoother. The Ď06 had Bilsteins on it almost since new.
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We bought a diesel Excursion, good low mileage ones go for around $20,000. They ride great for a ĺ ton super duty. Weíve towed a 10,000 lb travel trailer a with 7 people on board without any issue.
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If I read the 1st post correctly the OP has already tried a 'truck' and is looking to upgrade for more interior room and a better ride.👍

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Exactly. But it even more than that, the OP has already purchased the replacement. Seems to me that it isnít in very good form to tell him what he should do if he has already considered the options, and then done it. Time to congratulate him on his choice. I am sure it will work great.
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Old 01-11-2019, 01:12 PM   #65
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I know your dilemma very well and I felt compelled to comment on your posting.

As you know by now, this TV topic is extremely subjective and is certainly influenced by one's car-maker of choice. Over my many years in the car world owning Corvettes, Mustangs, Suburbans, and on and on, I have chosen to indulge in some impulse buying along the way. However, in 2015 we took the plunge and got into a new 28' AS FC with a listed tongue weight approaching 1,000 lb.

All was well the day we drove it home from the dealership for a short 77 mile drive home in a 2014 GMC half-ton PU - I say all was well for the first 758 feet or so. I knew after about 2 miles down the road some additional consideration had to be made for me to feel comfortable towing without the TV red-lining the tach and laboring up the small hills found here locally. The half-ton was the 5.2L, auto, and something like a 3.18 rear end.

Next step was a gas 3/4 Chevy HD - 6.0L, 6 speed auto, and a 4.10 rear end. Much better but still not to my satisfaction. The torque curve was somewhere in the 3400 RPM range.

Now with all this said, you must know that I did a fair amount of research. Called the GM dealer, called GM, read everything published by GM and it all looked acceptable on paper - on paper!

Then off to the mountains. Long story short is it was very disappointing to say the least. The gas 3/4 ton and torque curve was very limiting. I recently bought a new 2018 3/4 ton Chevy HD with the new version of the Duramax and problem solved.

Towing = 28' AS Flying Cloud
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We have a 2017 GMC 2500 diesel and it tows our 33í Classic like a dream. It rode a bit rough when not hitched up so we added a topper to the bed. It now rides significantly smoother with the added weight and gives us some added dry storage.

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My current TV is a '15 2500HD with Duramax, arguably one of the best TVs on the market. When we purchased our plan was to full-time out west, thus the best truck we could buy.

Plans change, and now I'm looking at traveling a bit less, just a couple trips a year and shorter trips in the midwest. In the meantime, the 2500HD is an absolute PITA to drive when not towing, I'm afraid my teeth are going to fall out. We don't drive it when my 6 month old daughter is with because she cries due to the jarring ride (yes, I've tried lowering PSI to 50 all around, helps but doesn't do enough). In addition, the crew cab is at full space capacity with 2 adults, 2 car seats and the dog.

Try changing your shocks...the Bilsteins are great shocks but, they may ride a little stiffer than the original stock-shocks. I have an '08 Ford F350 Harley-Davidson Edition, CC, 4x4, 6.4L Diesel and replaced the "whatever-OEM types" with Bilsteins and got a very harsh ride as a result. Wished I'd left good enough as-was. Now, have an '18 GMC Sierra 2500HD, 4x4, CC, 6.6L Duramax and the last thing I'll ever do is swap the stocks out for Bilsteins.
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