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Old 02-26-2006, 02:19 PM   #1
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Does anyone know if I can tow a Safari 25SS with an H2?
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Old 02-26-2006, 02:36 PM   #2
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John... I'm sure you can. Whether or not it's a safe combo may be another story... short wheelbase tow vehicles and long wheelbase trailers aren't paired really well.

As for the weight rating, you'll have to check with your Hummer dealer...

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The Hummer website says the H2 has a 2200# payload capacity. Max tow weight is 6700#. I would say you are there! The 25SS with options of WD gear, full LP tanks, spare tire (LS package) and personal gear inside should have a hitch weight between 900-1000#. That leaves you a hefty cushion below your payload.
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Yes it will tow it, but the wheelbase will eventually catch up with you, particularly if you encounter any wind when towing or do any emerg manuvers. Really, if you go by HP and torque alone, yes, but looking at the larger picture, really 19', maybe 22' would be all that I would tow with it due to it's wheelbase and my exp towing a 25' SS with a 118" wheelbase. It wasn't fun and I too had all the HP and torque I wanted too.
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I'll go with Roger & Eric's answers -- hadn't checked the wheelbase. How long are you saddled with the H2?
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John... I'm sure you can. Whether or not it's a safe combo may be another story... short wheelbase tow vehicles and long wheelbase trailers aren't paired really well.

As for the weight rating, you'll have to check with your Hummer dealer...

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Roger,

What wheelbase would you recommed for a 25' trailer, the H2 is 122"?

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I don't think the H2 wheelbase is an issue towing a 25. The H2 Wheelbase is 122.8", I pulled a 30' classic with an Avalanche, 130" wheelbase, the 30 is 6' 1" longer than the 25. The Hummer also has a short overhang which should improve handling while towing.
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I forgot to mention, my Avalanche had the same BF Goodrich tires that the H2 has. I know how these tires perform, I use to air to 65lbs when towing the 30. The Hummer is also a heavy truck with a 6.0 engine. So many things to consider, tires, engine, axle, overhang. I think the Hummer has it for the 25.
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I really appreciate the input from you all! I have to admit, I am a little suprised to hear that the wheelbase on the H2 is actually an issue. I really thought the tongue weight would come up. Then again I'm very new to this and this would be the first time I ever trailered a vehicle. I'm still a little confused at how to determine the weight of the trailer since the stats onm A/S web site only seem to proive weight w/o options etc..;Do you think the substantial weight of the H2 would compensate for some of its shortcomings?
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At 118" is wasn't good enough. At 130" I was happy towing, even in high wind with our 25'.

The issue is not that the hummer has a 6.0L and a more stout 4l60e. I've read many times on this forum alone where folks that had Excursions, Tahoes, Explorers, etc and all had too small of a wheelbase for the coaches they had. Each of those folks told of how it was squirrely on the road. I know the feeling first hand and that's why I tow with the 3/4 ton Suburban and it's been a night and day difference.

At 25' (newer coach), you are now into the wide body coach and you have the ability to reach 7000lbs. That's over 3 tons. Brakes, trans, hubs, wheelbase start to play a far more important role than just "a big engine".

Now, back to the H2, if the 25' Safari is rated at 7000 gvwr and you have passengers, cargo and fuel in the H2, even if you don't fill the Safari to it's max, you will in fact EXCEED the maximum weight per the H2 website, so the answer is, yes it will move it, no, it won't tow it, or at least tow it safely. If we were talkin a vintage coach, then I'd say maybe, but not with a new(er) Airstream.

To answer the question on what wheelbase I'd suggest, it would be 130" min for the 25' units. Larger (say 30') may need a longer wheelbase, but 130" works great so far.

Hitch weight can be an issue, but can be overcome in most cases with a good weight distribution hitch.
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Eric has been to the mountain and seen the light! I'd say the 130" wheelbase is the minimum for a 25-30' trailer. My Excursion has 137" wheelbase and frankly I wish it was slightly longer for pulling my 34'. It's OK, but it's absolutely the minimum I'd want for a 30' or longer. I've had the Excursion parked side-by-side with an H2, and the rear wheels of the H2 come just about mid-rear door on the Ex. The H2 is tiny by comparison, even to the Suburban.

IMHO, the Suburban/Excursion would be the way to go if you're serious about a 25' widebody trailer, but you don't want a pickup.

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