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Old 01-28-2011, 01:14 PM   #15
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Try 3- 6x2x1/8 rectangle tubes the full length of the trailer from coupler to bumper with 5x2 tube under the frame above the axles to spread out the load. Its a frame that wont sag and it supports the walls. The ends of all the tubes have plates welded on to keep out critters or whatever.
your right rcarl, it is 6x2 and 5x2, very strong. i forget without looking a spec's thanks for update.
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Old 01-28-2011, 06:48 PM   #16
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Checkout the AirSafe hitch. I purchased one and dropped my WD bars from 1200 to 800lbs. The ride has smoothed out tremendously. No more open drawers or popped rivets inside/outside the camper.
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Old 01-28-2011, 07:37 PM   #17
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I have a 2009 27' FB Flying Cloud that I had towed with a 2001 F350. Originally I had the 1000# bars but switched to 600# bars after reading discussions here about stiff TV suspensions and potential effect on the AS. I will say that the ride with the 600# bars was much better, easier on the AS, the TV, and the occupants.
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Old 01-28-2011, 08:39 PM   #18
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Humans or critters? (Some would ask, "what's the difference...")
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Old 01-28-2011, 09:20 PM   #19
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I recently assisted my friend install the Pro Pride hitch on his 31' Classic, and he tows with a one ton Dodge--SRW. ( 1K WD bars).
We rode over rough back roads, freeways, and normal street driving. We hardly knew the trailer was attached!! Ride was smooooothe!
I ordered a 3P hitch!
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Yea - those 3P Hitch's ROCK...
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Old 01-30-2011, 07:59 AM   #21
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Try 3- 6x2x1/8 rectangle tubes the full length of the trailer from coupler to bumper with 5x2 tube under the frame above the axles to spread out the load. Its a frame that wont sag and it supports the walls. The ends of all the tubes have plates welded on to keep out critters or whatever.
And that could be part of why they weight half again as much as an Airstream and are so hard to pull.
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Old 01-30-2011, 08:07 AM   #22
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And that could be part of why they weight half again as much as an Airstream and are so hard to pull.
not realy, they weight about the same. i have owned a 27, 28,21, foot airstream and two 34 and two 30 ft avions. weight is close the same.
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Old 01-30-2011, 08:24 AM   #23
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Maybe not yours for whatever reason, but I traded a 22' Argosy for a 23' Avion, and it was significantly heavier, and MUCH harder to pull. My TV at the time, an '88 Suburban, pulled the Argosy easily, but I was totally dissatisfied with the way it pulled the Avion. So much, that I sold the Avion.

It was, however a nicely built trailer. If I had to live in one, I'd rather live in an Avion, but don't want to tow one.
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Old 01-30-2011, 08:38 AM   #24
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And that could be part of why they weight half again as much as an Airstream and are so hard to pull.
My 1985 30ft Avion has a gross dry weight of 5840lbs and a tongue weight of 630lbs and a GVWR of 8550lbs. I thought those specs were good, should I get a F450 to pull it instead of my Tahoe? My owners manual shows a car pulling it.
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Specs are one thing, actual weights are another. If it were mine, I'd actually weigh it to find out for sure.

Sorry, but I can't think of a nicer way to say I don't believe those specs. :-)
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Specs are one thing, actual weights are another. If it were mine, I'd actually weigh it to find out for sure.

Sorry, but I can't think of a nicer way to say I don't believe those specs. :-)
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Nope, I looked but I didn't see a cat scale ticket anywhere in there.
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Old 01-30-2011, 09:48 AM   #28
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r carl , the split axles and spring setup was the best setup on a trailer.
i think they done away with it in 88 or 89. i wish my 89 still had them.
i used to watch the triple axle on the 34's i had in the mirror as i rolled across some speed bumps, it was like the trailer never moved. the only advantage i see in the axle setup now days on airstream and avions is you don't have to use a jack to change a tire, that should show you something, its not the tv that beats the hell out of the trailer its the axles.
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