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Old 02-27-2014, 11:48 AM   #15
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I didnt realize that FC25 had 835 hitch weight. Wonder why the EB25 is so much less at 734. After packing in the back area the EB will be even less.

Also, if you call any dealer in the country they will say you are fine, it seems to me this board constantly recommends trucks that far exceed anything a airstream needs.

If you contact airstream themselves they will recommend half ton. F150s, Tundra, Yukon, Armada etc..
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Old 02-27-2014, 11:52 AM   #16
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I feel that I'm going to be fine with the Yukon as well....that 835# is their brochure weight and could end up less. The only way to know is head to the CAT!!
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Old 02-27-2014, 11:55 AM   #17
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That 835# published is at the max 15% recommended based on the 25's GVWR so thinking the actual will be less.
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Old 02-27-2014, 11:56 AM   #18
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Not sure I understand your statement here. The original poster wants to tow a 25' Airstream with his 6.2L equipped 1/2 ton Yukon XL, and you say he will be "exceeding capacities in every way", but you are not while towing a 30 footer with a 5.7L equipped 1/2 ton Toyota?

Would you like to explain why you say that?
Yes, I am on the verge of or exceeding capacities in every way as well, but I refuse to go buy a 1 ton truck- if I put too much camp fire wood in the bed of the truck I am over payload- sometimes a 1/2 ton truck has slightly higher capacities than a 3/4 ton because of the weight of the diesel engine itself or the heavier suspension-
Run what you brung and be happy.
Life is good.
I am not trying to argue, just saying go get a trailer and pull it with your Denali-
No matter what rig you have someone will be real quick to point out that it is insufficient in some area unless it is a 1 ton diesel dually.
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Old 02-27-2014, 12:00 PM   #19
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I have traveled many miles exceeding capacities or within a few pounds of capacities.
The truck don't seem to know the difference.
It doesn't seem to matter to the truck.
I plan to have this combination for many years, like 20 or more-
2 payments left...
My point is that there will always be limitations until you buy a 1 ton truck, and I ain't plannin' on doin' that...
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Old 02-27-2014, 12:19 PM   #20
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OK, I understand. And about the 1 Ton truck, if you use one as a tow vehicle, there are many on here that will tell you it's too much truck, and you will destroy your Airstream with it, even though those that do use them, don't seem to destroy anything.

I think it's human nature to always look for a better way to do anything, and that "better way" is always subject to definition by the person's needs, so varies greatly from person to person. And it seems with tow vehicles especially, usually escalates into at least what is interpreted by the moderators as an argument, so threads get closed. Personally, even though I disagree with lots of folks statements, I enjoy hearing about them.
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Old 02-27-2014, 01:50 PM   #21
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So what do you do?
Remember the Rick Nelson song Garden Party?
You can't please everybody, so you gotta please yourself.
No matter what you do, some on here will kick you and slam you and tell you that it's wrong.
Others will agree with you.
I'm like, "You're grown. You got your own money. Do whatever yo feel."
In my opinion there is way too much arguing, bickering, ad. "My rig is better than your rig" on here.
Can't we all get along?
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
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Old 02-27-2014, 01:54 PM   #22
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50,000 negative, derogatory, kicking, slamming, argumentative posts ain't gonna change that fact.
We should be all supportive and encouraging one another and planning meet-ups, camp-outs, and rallies.
After all, that is part of the purpose why Airforums exists, right?
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Old 02-27-2014, 02:13 PM   #23
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Yes, I agree, everyone has to make their own decisions. The problem is two fold as I see it: 1. People with little to no experience come on the forum and ask for input on tow vehicles, and then they get too many instructions in too many directions because there are many different combos that work. That's when the, uh, should I say debates start. 2. And this is just my opinion, the moderators have a different definition than I about the difference between "debate", and "argument".

Compared to some other forums that I read at times, this one is very civilized.
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Old 02-27-2014, 02:20 PM   #24
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Why not some sticky threads on tow vehicles, hitches, decision criteria, range of options....I'm going to be deeply embarrassed if those are already there but I'm taking a quick peek here in between meetings (God I want to be camping!!! ) and thought I'd butt in in this uninformed manner :-)
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Why not some sticky threads on tow vehicles, hitches, decision criteria, range of options....I'm going to be deeply embarrassed if those are already there but I'm taking a quick peek here in between meetings (God I want to be camping!!! ) and thought I'd butt in in this uninformed manner :-)
I'm afraid there would still be, uh, "debates" because there even debates, heated ones, about manufacturer's tow ratings. Some believe them like the gospel, and others say they are just "marketing".
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Old 02-27-2014, 02:34 PM   #26
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This board stressed me out a lot over Tow Vehicles, but I called airstream and have had several email conversations as well as discussed with many dealers and some current owners.
Facts are that the overwhelming consensus is what I posted earlier. Dealers have told me they see more maintaince problems with people towing a 25/27 with a f350 then they ever do with anyone towing any model with a f150.
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Old 02-27-2014, 02:46 PM   #27
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airtoground:

As you can see, questions about hitches and tow vehicles spark lively conversations here on airforums.....

For years, the quintessential tow vehicle used by many in the Airstream crowd was a Suburban.

People here chose tow vehicles for all kinds of reasons and claim all kinds of validation and justifications.

Personally, I figure a 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton SUV or pickup can safely tow any Airstream about anywhere, and carry most anything one would want to take with them.

So far a hitch weight, don't forget that the weight distribution system of any hitch transfers part of the load back onto the front axle of the TV.

So, all the weight of the hitch is not simply added to the tongue weight of the trailer.

The final traveling weights of a loaded trailer and hitch system will differ, usually by quite a bit, from the actual weights of a parked trailer.

And, certainly a lot from the "spec" weights printed on a sales slick.


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Old 02-27-2014, 02:59 PM   #28
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If I was burdened with tons of cash, and had no concerns about operating expenses and the like, I run out and buy a new Yukon Denali for towing my 25FC.

ARGH! I woke up and discovered I am not burdened in that way.
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